New abortion scare tactics *sensitive warning, photo included*

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This is doing the rounds on fb at the moment.

Seriously

Alora my heart is breaking for all those women because I know how horrendous a post 20 week termination is. I cannot imagine being in their situations. Especially the young teenagers.

Thank you, a really moving link

Its so sad isn't it? The one that always upsets me is the woman who discovered her partner was abusing her two young daughters from a previous relationship. Such awful circumstances some people find themselves in.

I think that link should be shared on every thread like this because it flies in the face of anti-choice rubbish that given the opportunity lots of women flippantly decide that they can't be bothered post 20 weeks.

I've read quite a few of your previous posts Kitty and I think your strength dignity and that of a few others who spring to mind when posting on threads like this is amazing. I'm sorry for the loss of your little girl

Thank you 💐

I think the one that got me most was the girl who had been 'given' an arranged marriage. Just the 'had to be referee to antenatal care and mediation with parents, hostel in place if needed' says it all about how desperate some peoples situations are.

It must be really easy to think about people who have abortions/terminations as some slutty girl who couldn't be bothered with contraception on her drunken one night stand (I'm not saying people who have drunk enough ons are slutty btw but that many pro lifers like to think that way)

'I think its really not on to use images of much wanted and mourned for babies to push an anti-choice agenda. It says far more about the person linking to it than it does women who choose to end their pregnancies'

Alora. Yes, that's the crux of it, for me

Oh Dixie that's heart breaking

She was obviously in a desperate situation and did a desperate thing and I bet she never forgave herself. She should never been blamed for doing something like that

I read a magazine a couple of years ago and a particular story never left me. I can't remember the exact details now and Google is showing no results but the gist of it was, a couple had had their 20 week scan and noticed the baby had a condition that was potentially life threatening. They continued to have scans to see if anything would improve. The scans showed the baby inside continuously spasming and the doctors could not guarantee it was not in pain.
At about 37 weeks the doctors confirmed that if they birthed the child, it would die. Could be hours, days, weeks or even months but it will die. Everyday it was alive it would be in a lot of pain. The doctors offered her the chance to abort her baby. After a couple of days she did. I felt a huge compassion for that woman who had done what she thought was the best thing for her child. A child who could have possibly be in excruciating pain every second it was alive

Ah I found it. She was 35 weeks not 37...

www.lifenews.com/2015/05/06/woman-8-months-pregnant-defends-aborting-her-baby-with-a-brain-malformation/

I know I've posted a lot in the last 5 mins so here is the last link to the article in her words

www.yahoo.com/parenting/what-kind-of-mother-is-8-months-pregnant-and-117104430132.html

Needa I know a woman in the US who had a very similar experience. Very rare brain disorder.

She was a huge help to me after my tfmr as many of the women on the arc forum had tfmr a bit earlier than me. I was very hung up on it being so late and having to have the injection to stop her heart. That woman was so kind and caring to me.

I cannot even begin to fathom her pain

You are both very strong and admirable women

You both have strength I can only dream about.

My heart goes out to both of you

Dixie that's almost exactly the same feeling I had. Dd2 was going to die whatever happened, I'd rather she had somewhere warm and cosy where she wasn't in pain and (hopefully as cheesy as it sounds) felt our love.

Someone said to me in the early days 'we suffered so they didn't have to'. That got me through many a night.

Uare's arguments are typical of the anti-abortion brigade.

There's absolutely no sense to back up their arguments, so they rely on attempts to manipulate women's emotions - 'you know it's wrong'.

It is terribly sad that exclusion zones aroudn family planning clinics are needed. Women should be able to access perfectly legal, run of the mill health care without being harrased and intimidated.

Unfortunately, the fact that a minority of people hold uninformed, bigoted opinions like Uare and are impelled to try to influence other people about the services that they are using for their reproductive health mean that they are necessary.

Some touching stories here and I thank the women who have posted them. I'm angry that you had to post them here just to try to illustrate a point, IYSWIM, but I'm glad you shared them. for you all.

Abortion is the easy, quick choice

Have the baby adopted and continue your education after it's been adopted.

People have done it and shock horror the baby had a nice life and wasn't lying torn to pieces

in cases of open adoption as they have shown on mtvs teen mom. The young parents still got the see the baby they gave up and be a small part of her life

As I said before I can understand aborting for medical reasons and in cases of rape

That's just my view

The people who protest outside abortion clinics hold different views to me and the people who have had abortions obviously have to find some way to justify it

But really I think they must feel guilty. That's why they get so upset

There was a thread on Reddit about people not regretting their abortion and it was just a load of crap

Like people posting photos of 12 week old alive babies and people saying its healthcare

It's killing a living thing... not quite like going to the dentist

We are all only human are we not and it is not human nature to kill our children

Why do they have to ask someone having an abortion if they are sure they want to go ahead?

Because it's a terrible thing and everyone knows that

Smoking causes cancer and sunbeds cause cancer but people still abuse both

Im not trying to change anyone's mind I'm just expressing a view

Abortion is the easy, quick choice
Bollocks.

As I said before I can understand aborting for medical reasons and in cases of rape
Mighty big of you but nobody needs your approval, or your opinion for that matter, unless it's to support the choices, safety and freedoms of other women, which in your case...

But really I think they must feel guilty. That's why they get so upset
Who? There are women on here who have said they weren't bothered in the slightest. What you mean is you'd like them to be upset. Tough.

We are all only human are we not and it is not human nature to kill our children
Nobody has said anything about killing children.

Smoking causes cancer and sunbeds cause cancer but people still abuse both
Logical fallacies do not make for an argument.

Im not trying to change anyone's mind I'm just expressing a view
It's been made awfully clear by the majority that nobody agrees with you, that you post nonsense and that you're pushing a particular agenda in an really rather vile manner.

MTVs TeenMom? That's your empirical evidence?

**, having a termination is neither quick nor easy. In fact, it was the most difficult decision I've ever made. It was 100% the right choice for me though, and I've never regretted it.

'But really I think they must feel guilty. That's why they get so upset'. I have never felt guilty for even a moment. It was the right choice. Of that, I am absolutely certain.

'Because it's a terrible thing and everyone knows that'. It wasn't a terrible thing for me. Or the other women I know who have had terminations.

And how fucking dare you speak for anyone other than yourself? With all the 'everyone knows' and 'obviously have to find some way to justify it' shite.

You don't get to speak for anyone else, you don't get to put words in our mouths or claim to know the thoughts in our heads.

I do love Dawn - thanks for putting it so succinctly !

'We are all only human are we not and it is not human nature to kill our children's. Indeed it's not. I've never killed any child of mine. I have had an abortion.

'Im not trying to change anyone's mind I'm just expressing a view's. Well, thank feck you're not trying to change anyone's mind. Because none of the shite that you've posted has changed my mind, in the slightest. I still, and always will, support the right of any woman to have an abortion for any reason.