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To just say, let the house clearence take it!

197 replies

dentydown · 28/01/2016 13:05

My distant cousin died (my nan knew her well, she was her first cousin and didn't want to abandon her in death) last September, and left a house. Now she died intestate, so there was a lot of sorting to do, searching the house for a will/photos/legal papers etc.
I've been a bit pre-occupied recovering photos, personal letters and little bits of sentimenal odds and sods for th family to remember her by. We managed to recover a lot of paperwork and hand everything over to a probate company, who are wonderful!
My partner seems to have developed magpie-itis. S was a bit of a hoarder, the property is in a bit of a state and she liked to buy white goods. He has taken a few small white goods with him every visit! (I pay him 70 pounds to get me there and back)
I've taken stuff to clean up and pass to the charity shop (mainly because I don't want to see nice china/nick-nacks chucked)
Now he's talking about the washing machine (still in it's packaging), dishwasher , cookers. And brass ornaments for scrap! I just feel like telling him enough! Let the house clearing take it (they said any photos/personal papers they'll leave to one side).
He's saying i'm being unreasonable because I took ornaments for charity/family mementos. He's making use of the stuff. I even got comments as I was washing up the china (lovely vintage stuff) for the charity shop. "All that work for someone else's enjoyment" urgh!

OP posts:
ZiggyFartdust · 28/01/2016 18:23

Bullhockey. You notified them of the death of someone you don't know but your nan does, and it took them months to trace your nan?
You should write the lies down to keep them straight.

firesidechat · 28/01/2016 18:23

One last thing, I had forgotten about this:

The administrator (would normally be a beneficiary?) would then decide whether/how to dispose of contents to get the most value for the beneficiaries.

The legal requirement to make the most money possible for the estate. Good point.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/01/2016 18:32

The clearance people did say there was no value in anything

They always do Hmm And from experience they often say it so they can charge for clearing a house and make more money by selling selected contents ... much as your DP's intending to do, no doubt. As a PP said, why would someone who's prepared to fleece you over the £70 take away items if he thought they were worth nothing?

I also thought you said a management company were in charge of sorting out the house clearance? If that's the case I think you'll find both they and the clearers will be pretty hacked off when they find someone's been dipping into whatever they fancy ...

hefzi · 28/01/2016 18:38

Postchildren but OP has said that there is a house clearance company involved, and explained that she was offered the chance to do it, but chose not to: there's some enormous charge for it, because of the hoarding issue. But yes, probate has to be granted before anything can happen.

fuzzpig · 28/01/2016 18:50

Please, please LTB. He's a thief and a cheat. You and your boys deserve better Thanks

mathanxiety · 28/01/2016 19:15

My guess is that the 'management company' and 'clearance company' share an office.

OP, you need to go to a solicitor and have all the ins and outs explained to you.

  • Tell the solicitor what you have been doing and what DP has been doing.
  • Ask if you have exposed yourself to being sued by relatives or prosecuted by the state.
  • Ask what you can do immediately to remove that risk.
SilverBirchWithout · 28/01/2016 21:31

Whose Power of Attorney?

POA's cease open someone's death.

OP sounds totally out of her depth, whether this is total bollocks or real. I'm bowing out now.

SilverBirchWithout · 28/01/2016 21:32

*open = once

PegsPigs · 29/01/2016 11:52

Your 'D'P sounds awful. I'm sorry you have no one else to ask for a lift but he's taking you for a ride in more ways than one.

Sallyingforth · 29/01/2016 13:11

I know you have ignored all the advice on this thread OP, but here's one last contribution from me.

You have openly admitted that you have stolen items from the house by driving them away in your car. And your suggestion that the value of the estate will be distributed among relatives instead of following the rules of intestacy could very well amount to conspiracy to defraud.

You are not anonymous on here. Your identity can easily be traced if an interested party applies for an order to release data from MN.

You should report your thread to MNHQ and ask for it to be deleted.

musicposy · 29/01/2016 16:54

I still can't get over the £70. DD1 is at uni nearly 90 miles away. That's a 180 mile round trip, and with petrol cheap now I can do that on £20 of petrol. I have an economical car, admittedly, but £70 is utterly taking the piss.
I would be looking at what sort of man your "D"P is - willing to steal stuff to sell, and basically con you too - because that's what he's doing charging you £70.

CalleighDoodle · 29/01/2016 18:09

We already know what kind of man he is. He has made that clear repeatedly.

icysphincterporn · 29/01/2016 18:32

Who is the Power of Attorney?

shazzarooney99 · 29/01/2016 18:38

I would get house clearance in, i told my sister to do this with my mums house, i told her to take everything out she wanted first, because its such a big job xxxx sorry for your loss xxx

Oldraver · 29/01/2016 18:42

£70 for 50 miles ? What was he driving a fucking tank..

toastyarmadillo · 29/01/2016 19:04

Still baffled by the 70 quid charge?

NeedsAsockamnesty · 29/01/2016 20:31

The op has a comunication disorder it's no wonder her posts are a tad unusual.

op if the White gods have no value ask yourself this, why does your deadbeat partner want to sell them?

MeadowHay · 29/01/2016 21:16

Any updates OP? You can PM if you want? I'm really concerned about you and the situation you have found yourself in.

ohtheholidays · 29/01/2016 21:45

OP is on the autistic spectrum,Aspergers.Sadly people that are autistic can and very often are taken advantge of by arseholes.We have 2DC that are autistic and we have to constantly intervene with the school because of other children trying to take advantage of our childrens very trusting nature.

OP with regards to the house and getting it all sorted out I'd give the Citizens Advice a ring here's the link for them
www.citizensadvice.org.uk/ You can ask for an appointment with them.They're help is free and they're usually really good at helping.They have they're own solicitors that they can talk to for you.

And with regards to your partner you really do deserve so much more and so do your children and if like another poster said and you are pregnant please be very careful.Cat,Rat and Mice faeces can all carry really dangerous diseases that could make you and your unborn child seriously ill.You shouldn't really be handling any of the dead bodies or the poison whilst your pregnant neither.

musicposy · 29/01/2016 22:40

OP, I put your journey into journeyprice.co.uk and for an average car (I left it on their average car settings) your petrol costs for that trip come out as £7.63.

Your DP is making a £62.37 profit out of you every time he takes you. Shock Even if he was charging a bit for his time and wasn't stealing stuff to sell (what friend even charges for their time, let alone partner?) this is an extortionate amount of money.

As you don't drive, the link to the site above is very good for working out what petrol will actually cost so you don't get conned like this in future. Last year DD1 was working full time and reliant on me for lifts. I couldn't afford to fund running her around, but I didn't want to make money out of her either (because most people don't try to make a profit out of those they love) so we put every journey into that site and she paid me the petrol. Most journeys were less than a pound or two.

Someone who loved you would not be ripping you off like this.

Sallyingforth · 30/01/2016 09:38

The £70 is irrelevant. That's just a personal issue between them.

The important matter is that she unlocked the house and helped him steal goods from the estate of the decreased person. She has committed at least one criminal offence.

musicposy · 30/01/2016 12:23

Yes, but she has said she is aware of that now, can see she has screwed up, and is going to get further advice on it.
However, once that's all sorted, she'll still be left with the arsehole partner if she doesn't see him for what he is. So no, I don't think it's irrelevant.

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