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To just say, let the house clearence take it!

197 replies

dentydown · 28/01/2016 13:05

My distant cousin died (my nan knew her well, she was her first cousin and didn't want to abandon her in death) last September, and left a house. Now she died intestate, so there was a lot of sorting to do, searching the house for a will/photos/legal papers etc.
I've been a bit pre-occupied recovering photos, personal letters and little bits of sentimenal odds and sods for th family to remember her by. We managed to recover a lot of paperwork and hand everything over to a probate company, who are wonderful!
My partner seems to have developed magpie-itis. S was a bit of a hoarder, the property is in a bit of a state and she liked to buy white goods. He has taken a few small white goods with him every visit! (I pay him 70 pounds to get me there and back)
I've taken stuff to clean up and pass to the charity shop (mainly because I don't want to see nice china/nick-nacks chucked)
Now he's talking about the washing machine (still in it's packaging), dishwasher , cookers. And brass ornaments for scrap! I just feel like telling him enough! Let the house clearing take it (they said any photos/personal papers they'll leave to one side).
He's saying i'm being unreasonable because I took ornaments for charity/family mementos. He's making use of the stuff. I even got comments as I was washing up the china (lovely vintage stuff) for the charity shop. "All that work for someone else's enjoyment" urgh!

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Ididnthearanything · 28/01/2016 15:48

This is a bit incredible.

Your P charges £70 per trip.
He is your P, but almost not your P due to his unfaithfulness.
You let him steal your dead relative's belongings. (Which he may sell for money, or use in his next infatuation cycle with another OW)
You are wondering if this is right???

DO you really need to ask? No wonfder he 'comes to his senses'. Too right. Look into his eyes, are their $$ signs there.

I hate to be mean, and only you know what works for you but since you ask: this whole thing is ridiculous. Just back off completely, let the company do it and let your P off on his merry way.

MrsJayy · 28/01/2016 15:52

Yes just let the clearance company deal with it if there is any paperwork they will save it for your nan stop going stop lifting stuff and stop giving a greedy sod of a man £70

dentydown · 28/01/2016 15:53

I was told to search the property for a will as they don't have to be logged with a solicitor.
I had to go through binbags of crap/piles of rubbish/clothes mixed with documents and couldn't find a will.
I wanted to the best of my knowledge be certain there wasn't one hidden in a handbag. The management company worked along the lines of assuming there wasn't a will, and if one turned up they'd deal with it.
Ashes will be scattered over the family graves at our local church, unless the other family want to make other arrangements.
It's not difficult to trace the family as they are on ancestry! (I'm not allowed to contact them for now)

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ZiggyFartdust · 28/01/2016 15:56

You're not answering any of the more serious questions, OP.

The most important being:

WHY are you letting your boyfriend steal goods from a dead persons house?

bessiebumptious2 · 28/01/2016 15:59

Oh God OP this gets worse. They told you to go into the property to search for a will not to take stuff from the property. You're already in trouble here.

You're also in trouble because you've just stated that there's another family in existence. You have potentially removed things that they may be entitled to.

This is shocking.

firesidechat · 28/01/2016 16:02

There is so much wrong with all of this.

Indeed.

bessiebumptious2 · 28/01/2016 16:03

For heaven's sake don't go scattering the ashes for now - do you know who's ashes they are?

firesidechat · 28/01/2016 16:03

What management company? Who appointed them? This makes no sense.

Topseyt · 28/01/2016 16:06

OP, are you being deliberately dense here?

There are strict laws in the UK regarding intestacy. People are trying to get that across to you and you are barely paying lip service to it.

I am no expert, but basically if there is no will then the State takes over. That is my understanding. Everything is taken over by the State and the State, not you and most certainly not your twat "D"P.

If you aren't adhering to that then you are acting illegally and could end up in prison.

Any probate solicitor worth their salt should have told you all of this right back at the start, once you had informed them that no will had been located.

Well, I am presuming you DID actually tell them that????? Or did it just conveniently slip your mind?

I would like to have sympathy, but this thread has honestly been soooo irritating to read.

CalleighDoodle · 28/01/2016 16:08

How about telling the police your theiving disrespectful chancer nob of a 'partner' is stealing from a relative and walk away...

I dnt think you need to go to the house again. You've no good reason to be there.

He is stealing from you as well by charging you £70 for a £10 journey at most. He most certainly has no reason to be at the house.

He has nonreapect for you at all. Occasionally he doesn't come to his senses, he just wants an easy life of cocklodging.

bessiebumptious2 · 28/01/2016 16:08

And how much are this 'management company' charging for their services?

DustyBustle · 28/01/2016 16:09

Who informed your Nan of your cousin's death OP?

dentydown · 28/01/2016 16:10

The whole house gets cleared next week. Everything to landfill. The other family get a share of the cash from the sale of the house.
I only found out that he'd loaded stuff in his car when I saw it in his boot.

The clearance people did say there was no value in anything.
If he is selling it, I hope whoever buys it sees the mouse poo/dead mouse in the boxes, because it really is unhygenic.

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ZiggyFartdust · 28/01/2016 16:11

You're not paying the slightest attention are you?

firesidechat · 28/01/2016 16:17

The state doesn't take over if there is no will, only if there is no will and no obvious relatives to inherit. A relative can apply to administer the estate, deal with debts and distribute to the inheritors, but they have to do this according to the law and there are strict rules about who can inherit. The person administering the estate can employ a solicitor to administer the estate for them, although that eats up a considerable amount of the estate.

I think that's right. I'm no expert.

laurierf · 28/01/2016 16:18

Apart from the risk of getting yourself in legal trouble, should you be rummaging around a "biohazard" home - you've mentioned rats, mice, rotting chicken carcass, used incontinence pads... (you did mention on your other thread that you were pregnant).

Woodenmouse · 28/01/2016 16:18

This gets more and more confusing!!

JenEric · 28/01/2016 16:20

I can't get past the fact you seem to be partnered with a lying thieving cheating fuckwit.

firesidechat · 28/01/2016 16:20

Is there a reason that you aren't answering questions and why you seem so blase about your possibly illegal activities? I can only think of one reason off the top of my head.

Shakey15000 · 28/01/2016 16:24

You are in COMPLETE denial of how wrong all of this is. The £70, your partner, your partner taking things that don't belong to him, you removing stuff, the ashes and your complete inability to read what everyone is saying and think "Hmm. Hang on, perhaps I need to check I'm doing this the right way".

Astounding.

firesidechat · 28/01/2016 16:27

It's not difficult to trace the family as they are on ancestry! (I'm not allowed to contact them for now)

It might be my white goods your bf is pinching. Stop now!!!

Grin

What a load of old rubbish.

FitzChivarly · 28/01/2016 16:28

OP why are you avoiding answering all the important questions such as why you are paying £70 for your P to give you a lift, who does that?!
And you should answer questions in regards to the legality of what your doing as PPs are trying to help you.

dentydown · 28/01/2016 16:31

It is confusing me as well. I admit I have royally screwed up.
I have been told by the case file handler, if it has no value you can get rid.
I also wanted to get as much information as I could about her before everything is destroyed.
The reason why everything took so long is because it took them 2-3 months to trace my nan. Then came christmas. Then everything started up again.
I'm the one who is organising everything, phoning everyone. And I can see I have screwed up.

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dentydown · 28/01/2016 16:33

70 is because I need to get down there and back for the school run. I can't get there otherwise. I hav aspergers so I have no friends, I don't have a car to help. It is just me, nan, my dad and my boys.

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ridemesideways · 28/01/2016 16:34

Why does he charge you £70?

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