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To quit my job and try for a baby

157 replies

otterlylovely · 14/01/2016 17:45

Insane, or perfectly logical?

If you knew you wanted a baby and then your situation at work became untenable - what would you do?

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revealall · 14/01/2016 21:30

One of the best bits of being pregnant is knowing you can legitimately leave work for a few months.I'd imagine, as I worked into labour and was back 2 weeks later

otterlylovely · 14/01/2016 21:30

Well, I take responsibility for that misunderstanding but I hope people will take into account that I have been very stressed this evening.

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revealall · 14/01/2016 21:31

That strikeout worked in the preview,

grumpysquash2 · 14/01/2016 21:50

OP, I haven't read all posts (just page 1)
I think that leaving work and trying for a baby are two entirely different things. They may happen at the same time, but are not linked.

If you want to quit your job, do it. Find another if you want to.

If you want to TTC, do that.

They are not mutually exclusive, far from it.

Pollyputhtekettleon · 15/01/2016 06:11

Flowersansshit, I never mentioned once about a partner. I was talking about getting her finances sorted so that the stress of being solely responsible for a baby while not having enough money to live wouldn't get in the way of becoming the kind of mum she would want to be.

Purplepicnic · 15/01/2016 06:43

All I would say is that if something big and shocking has happened at work today then don't make any massive decisions right now. Wait a few weeks to process it, then make your choices.

fidel1ne · 15/01/2016 06:55

Yes, I suppose there is a part of me hoping people will say 'get pregnant and it will work out.'

It probably will :-

IF you can make the books balance and have some kind of support network.

It sounds to me as though you're talking about down-shifting really. Nothing wrong with that, especially if you want to see a child occasionally Wink

Good luck.

AutumnLeavesArePretty · 15/01/2016 07:43

Little point in posting if you ask HQ to remove the thread when you don't get the responses you want.

You won't find many that will agree with the decision to quit work to start trying for a baby with no second income from a partner and just a very basic wage that likely won't cover childcare so likely to be unemployed after maternity leave as it's irresponsible.

If you truly wanted this, then you've had at least six years to save and prepare. A single person can live cheaply as can house share etc and with two jobs at some points you could have created a safety net whilst you move fields.

fidel1ne · 15/01/2016 07:50

You won't find many that will agree with the decision to quit work to start trying for a baby with no second income from a partner and just a very basic wage that likely won't cover childcare so likely to be unemployed after maternity leave as it's irresponsible.

You can't say that it's irresponsible Autumn. We don't have enough information to judge that.

She could own a home outright, live in a very cheap area, have accrued valuable assets during her career or have siblings that could be relied on as much as ££££ in the bank could. There is more than one kind of security.

Also, everything is comparative. Her second job could pay the same rate or more than most people's main jobs. Her lifestyle could be much more modest (cheaper) than yours even on her most extravagant day.

Or not. We just don't know.

fidel1ne · 15/01/2016 07:51

And crucially we don't know whether she's planning a sperm donation type conception or a co-parenting situation or even speed dating

saoirse31 · 15/01/2016 08:02

Wish you all the best, hope you can relax this weekend and begin to get over bodyblow. I think given your age, if you want a baby you should go for it. You sound as if you'll manage, best of luck

Siesta · 15/01/2016 08:11

I say go for it. You obviously haven't just decided on a whim to have a baby. I've had a planned baby alone without being wealthy by any means and with a quite precarious job situation. My son is only a few months old so there are no doubt trials to come but when I look at him it was the best decision I've ever made.

figureofspeech · 15/01/2016 08:24

Reading through updates regarding the allegations in your main job, can you find a way to clear your name? If you quit the role, it might be viewed as an admission if guilt. Surely if you are innocent then you try to prove it unless the matter is out of your hands. Can you speak to ACAS or a union to get advice?

otterlylovely · 15/01/2016 15:30

Unfortunately, mud sticks, and the union certainly won't be any help. Obviously I will try to sort this but pragmatically, it may not be sortable.

As for my lifestyle, Autumn is correct in a way, but I have paid off my mortgage and also acquired a small second property which is a BTL. I own both outright. They are my 'savings'.

The income from the BTL covers my council tax, electricity, mobile phone and Internet and car insurance.

Everything else I need to work for.

I do have savings but these are earmarked for the sperm donor (not one night stand, I do wish people would not be so bloody rude.)

It isn't about deleting the thread because I didn't get the responses I wanted but because I felt I was being judged for using donor sperm.

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wafflerinchief · 15/01/2016 16:39

i do agree with the advice not to do anything too quickly if you've had a massive shock. Is it feasible to sell the buy to let to fund re-training whilst you have a small DC so that you can get into something that covers childcare and allows you a decent standard of living? When you've settled from the shock, you need to think more strategically - you can make the DC a part of the new picture but you have to have a plan to have a reasonable standard of living and not a perpetual minimum wage existence. My sisters had their DC on hardly any money (benefits or cleaning type jobs) and they're doing ok but I don't think they would choose it if they had their time again, it's been very hard.

AnthonyBlanche · 15/01/2016 20:21

OP, if you do decide to go ahead and try to get pregnant, please don't use the man who has fathered about 800 children already (as featured in news recently). how horrible for those children when they grow up wondering if everyone they meet under a certain age is their brother or sister.

otterlylovely · 15/01/2016 20:44

I presume that's a serious post, and so I will explain very clearly that this is not something that would happen in a U.K. clinic.

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NerrSnerr · 15/01/2016 20:51

Op, it was the UK but he is unlicensed. www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35262535 (posting for info- I don't believe for one second you'd use an unlicensed donor).

RudeElf · 15/01/2016 20:59

What is rude about suggesting you would have a one night stand? Confused

KacieB · 15/01/2016 21:04

Honestly, I know maybe you didn't mean it to sound rude, but that did come across as a teeny bit insulting Anthony. Same as the posts upthread questioning why someone would go ahead and try to have a baby alone. The more I think about it, the more I just don't get why there's a group on MN who criticise women who use donor sperm.

If someone came online saying "my partners just left and I'm pregnant" or "I've had a ONS and I'm pregnant", sure, a few people would gently raise the possibility of abortion - but most people would post cheery encouraging "it'll be hard but you can do it!" messages.

Meanwhile you only have to glance at the Stately Homes threads to see what a "proper" nuclear family can put someone through.

OP, it sounds like you're financially quite secure anyway. Give yourself a bit of a break to get over this shock (because TTC is a bloody rollercoaster in itself) and then if you want to go for it, go for it.

KacieB · 15/01/2016 21:05

... Because it indicates that the OP is so desperate that rather than taking safe, calculated precautions, she'd just sleep with someone and risk STDs and tricking them into a pregnancy?

KacieB · 15/01/2016 21:06

(That last one's to Rude btw ... And pure speculation. I don't know how the OP actually feels)

RudeElf · 15/01/2016 21:10

Thank you kacie i couldnt see why was rude about it but that makes sense.

otterlylovely · 15/01/2016 22:07

It's a pity that some sections of the thread have focused on how I plan to have a baby and not on advice, but I'll try to explain.

I feel any sort of fertility treatment, or other 'contentious' medical treatment (euthanasia, abortion) is going to divide opinions and that is fine: it would be boring if we all agreed on the same things.

However, and I have asked Mumsnet about the possibility of a board for donor conception, it isn't fair to start this discussion when that's not the main point or purpose of a thread. For instance, if somebody said 'we are having these work issues and going through the adoption process' I think we'd all agree somebody saying 'actually OP I don't agree with adoption ... OP are you sure you want to adopt as my friends sisters colleagues did and it was awful' would not be very helpful!

I do feel there are parallels here, with abortion - if someone posts saying they have an abortion booked and what to expect, then giving your view would be wrong.

Now - in my defence. No, I don't have thousands upon thousands in the bank. But I have a qualification which means I'll never be out of work. I also have a steady job at the moment, anyway assets in terms of property and a real ability to make things work.

I can't offer my child a father. In an ideal world, I would. In an ideal world, there would be mummy and daddy and a black Labrador and it would all be great.

But I don't live in an ideal world, I live in my world. And what do I have to offer a child?

The basics, absolutlely. Child will never be cold, never be hungry, never not have a decent pair of shoes, never not have a coat. How do I know? Because I'd suffer the above a thousand times over before I stuffed one piece of non organic vegetables down that child's throat :)

But more than that - love, in bucket loads. This child will mean more to me than I could ever put into words, and I'm sure you all feel the same about your children, so all I ask is you don't deny me the joys of motherhood because I haven't met a knight on a white steed. Actually, I'd probably make more of a fuss of the steed.

But also, all that child will ever know is love, stability, calmness, his or her needs putting first and a cheerful and resilient approach to life.

I know there are ideal situations, but for some of us who are single or in same sex relationships or have fertility problems, sperm or egg donation is the only way we would get to experience parenthood.

Someone said up thread they couldn't think of anything worse than telling a child they literally have no father. I can. I think telling a child their father can't see them because he routinely beat up their mother, doesn't want to see them as he just doesn't care, did want to see them but has a new family now, are worse.

Sometimes perfect situations happen - you meet a lovely man and you're both in well paid jobs and you own a beautiful home and a black Labrador or a collie and you wonder why everyone can't be the same as you.

Other times, perfect situations change. We didn't have a black Labrador, but a lovely home in the country, mum desperate for babies, loving dad, well paid and professional. Cancer and special needs and alcoholism and nervous breakdowns couldn't be kept out though. Cancer doesn't give a stuff if you're in a professional role. Alcoholism doesn't note your middle class credentials (though it may ensure you drink white wine rather than white lightning.)

Other times, and this is my situation, your situation isn't perfect but it's enough. It's a home, and it's warm and it's clean and it's welcoming. It's a job, and it's shite not ideal but you'll manage. It's only one of you, but you've enough love and devotion and determination for an army.

If I could make a wish, it would be for people to understand that their role isn't undermined because in some contexts it isn't necessary. I grew up without grandparents: they died. I survived and was happy without them. That doesn't undermine the key and wonderful role grandparents play in their grandchildrens upbringing. Love is love, whether it's from mum, dad, granny, auntie, family friend.

I feel I would be a lovely mum. All I want is a chance to prove that without being judged.

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mincebloodypie · 15/01/2016 22:25

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