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To not move on the train?

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TheCatsMeow · 12/01/2016 12:30

I was on a very busy packed train with my friend and DS. DS was in a sling, we had the buggy and I was feeding him. We were standing by the doors (no one offered us seats!) trying to feed a screaming baby, penned in by others standing. There was no where we could go.

People tried to push past us to get out the doors and nearly sent DS flying. I firmly asked if they could use one of the other doors and I literally couldn't go anywhere. Cue mutterings and dirty looks!

We couldn't collapse the pram there wasn't room to do and as no one had offered a seat we couldn't move anywhere! WIBU to ask them to use another door?

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AskingForAPal · 12/01/2016 14:15

I think all of us giving sensible answers have forgotten the really important thing:

The OP should have taken priority because she is, well, the most important person. It doesn't matter if she had a buggy, a useless friend and a day's shopping blocking the doors or a live lion and fire eater she'd brought along for her amusement. The fact is, whatever she wants to do is right and everyone else should adapt to that. Perhaps by using another door, perhaps by missing their connecting train and getting home too late to put their little girl to bed, or leaving their little boy waiting outside the school in his football kit looking sad.

So we should all spare the trouble of saying just how she could have handled it differently, because she is far too grand to have to think about other people being real humans with lives, needs, timetables and priorities of their own. If the OP wants to push onto a crowded commuter train with endless baggage, a buggy, her baby and her friend, and take up masses of space, leaving the people who got on behind her presumably smooshed up against the door (duh, their fault, they should have gone home later!) THAT IS HER RIGHT.

AskingForAPal · 12/01/2016 14:16

Can I ask why you didn't get a later train then? What's the difference between you, rushing onto a train without being ready, and the "idiots" who got on behind you?

PrivatePike · 12/01/2016 14:16

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TheCatsMeow · 12/01/2016 14:17

After many years of commuting on the tube to central London for work, I am personally of the opinion that people who HAVE to travel on a train for work, 5 days a week or more, at SPECIFIC times of the day that are known to be busy, take priority over me having a little jaunt out with my baby and my "friend".

No you don't. I've paid for a seat just like you. You don't have more of a right than I do.

It's always middle class middle aged snooty types as well. Young people and elderly people are always more than happy to help.

I haven't changed my story either. I've mentioned my hypermobility in other posts on here so feel free to look.

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CultureSucksDownWords · 12/01/2016 14:17

What about the other options of getting people to temporarily move down the aisle so that you could fold it? Or, could you have waited for the next train?

If you find yourself in an unfortunate position because of decisions you've made, it's a bit unfair to blame others for being cross with you. There were many chances to get yourself into a better position on the train but you didn't try any of them.

PaulAnkaTheDog · 12/01/2016 14:17

This has to be one of the most entitled threads ever.

ShowOfHands · 12/01/2016 14:19

Any other pertinent info? Phobias about trains? Religious beliefs about buggy folding? The disability just snuck in there at the nth hour, I'm wondering what else you have up your sleeve?

Come on op. Just admit it with good grace. It's okay to be wrong. You feel foolish and a bit stung but it passes. Good lesson for next time?

SmellsLikeMiddleAgeSpirit · 12/01/2016 14:19

So, because you brought a buggy you didn't need (carried baby all day), managed your time badly and didn't have time to fold said buggy, oh and choose to travel in rush hour, you expected others - the "idiots" - not to have got on the train??
Why didn't you wait for the next one if it's no big deal?

PaulAnkaTheDog · 12/01/2016 14:19

OP think about what you're saying. Because you didn't leave enough time to fold your buggy you expect everyone else to pussyfoot around you. Just no. Seriously.

TamaraLamara · 12/01/2016 14:19

What's the difference between you, rushing onto a train without being ready, and the "idiots" who got on behind you?

They haven't had the AUDACITY to have a baby or even if they had, they're still idiots because it fits the OP's conviction that the world is against her

Viviennemary · 12/01/2016 14:19

Somebody should have offered you a seat. But on the other hand you shouldn't block a door. The usual etiquette if the door is blocked is for people standing against the door to get off and let other people off and then get back on. Then you might have got a seat. You should also have folded the buggy. Buggies are a total nuisance on a crowded train.

Whatthefreakinwhatnow · 12/01/2016 14:19

Absolutely Paul!

It's hard to believe anyone can be so utterly self-absorbed and downright rude!

miaowmix · 12/01/2016 14:20

Grin Askingforapal

OP I've been that person shopping on a lovely day out with my baby too you know. I imagine most of us have. I would have avoided rush hour like the plague, rather than getting hacked off with the world.

Plus, have a word with your mate.

novemberchild · 12/01/2016 14:21

I'm guessing this is your first baby. I live in London, and I won't even take my two teens on a busy train, let alone go shopping with a baby, buggy and kit. Travelling very light w/sling only if you absolutely have to go somewhere. Otherwise, avoid like plague. It's the only way, for everyone's sake...

Funinthesun15 · 12/01/2016 14:22

Commuters are always rude with no time for anyone IME. Fucks me off.

A bit like mothers with babies and 'friends' it would appear Hmm

TamaraLamara · 12/01/2016 14:22

It's always middle class middle aged snooty types as well

Ah, you see you've overdone it now. I was having doubts a few pages back but still thought it could maybe be plausible, but you've tipped over into parody now.

Less is more, sweetie, but I'd still give this little story about 7/10.

Shutthatdoor · 12/01/2016 14:23

I'm so sick of commuters thinking they own public transport.

Shutthatdoor · 12/01/2016 14:24

Ops pressed too soon....

I'm so sick of commuters thinking they own public transport.

I'm sick of some mothers OP thinking the world revolves around them.

TheCatsMeow · 12/01/2016 14:25

No I don't feel foolish. I personally think commuters are twats for other reasons and this was the absolute last straw.

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PrivatePike · 12/01/2016 14:25

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Nottodaythankyouorever · 12/01/2016 14:25

It's always middle class middle aged snooty types as well.

Grow up!

kali110 · 12/01/2016 14:25

It's always middle class middle aged snooty types as well. Young people and elderly people are always more than happy to help.

What???Grin stop my muscles are hurting and it hurts more when i laugh!!
I fit in your catotgory ( of helping) and i wouldn't have helped ypu either!
My bf always gives up his seats ( obv i don't) but neither would he in this case. If people are rude like this why would i go out of my way to help?
This is probably why you didn't find any offers lf help!

TurnipCake · 12/01/2016 14:25

OP, give up now, you're embarrassing yourself Grin

emotionsecho · 12/01/2016 14:26

Whatthe as I said before it is a very special sort of arrogance.

Nicely slipped in the demonisation of middle class, middle aged people there, OP.

Thurlow · 12/01/2016 14:26

I personally think people who don't fold up pushchairs or bikes, or don't put large suitcases or shopping in the luggage racks, are twats.

HTH.

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