To not move on the train?

[TheCatsMeow]

I was on a very busy packed train with my friend and DS. DS was in a sling, we had the buggy and I was feeding him. We were standing by the doors (no one offered us seats!) trying to feed a screaming baby, penned in by others standing. There was no where we could go.

People tried to push past us to get out the doors and nearly sent DS flying. I firmly asked if they could use one of the other doors and I literally couldn't go anywhere. Cue mutterings and dirty looks!

We couldn't collapse the pram there wasn't room to do and as no one had offered a seat we couldn't move anywhere! WIBU to ask them to use another door?

What are the other reasons commuters twats? (My DP commutes via train, he has to, no option given where he works. I'd love to know why he's a twat)

I don't think the world revolves around me. I'm asking for a bit of patience in one situation. Jesus Christ why is that too much to ask

Ok, so you used your special psychic powers to determine that you didn't stop anyone with disabilities getting off at the door by which you were standing. I get that.

What would have happened if a disabled person HAD wanted to get off at that door? Would you have sent them to the other door like you did with everyone else, or made room for them to get past you?

If you could have made room for them, why couldn't you have made room for everyone else who wanted to get past you?

Ywhb ridiculously u either way.

I personally think commuters are twats for other reasons and this was the absolute last straw.

I'm sure many probably think the same about you, your outbursts and entitled behaviour.

I'm asking for a bit of patience in one situation. Jesus Christ why is that too much to ask.

Because you were acting like a douche. Also, you weren't asking for patience, you were asking for an entire section of the train to be exclusive to you after your wee jaunt.

I don't understand why you're finding it hard to accept that you could have made better decisions yourself?

No one should have pushed past you and your DS, of course, but you can't tell people to use a different door at that point, there's no time and people would be risking missing their stop just because you were in their way.

Everyone on public transport is a twat except you

Honestly, the normal response is to ensure that the doors are free for people going in and out of the train.

So yes I would expect you to do your best to move out of the way rather than telling people to use another door.
But then I would expect that the people who had left whatever was also in the way (people, suitcases etc...) to do the same. I've never seen two adults and a pushchair being enough to stop people go in and out.
I have seen people going down with their suitcases so that people could go out and then go back in the train though.

If the train was so fully packed, I would also scan for the less busy exit before heading that way.

So as far as I am concerned, YABU but so was everyone else involved! It would have been quite easy to make it nice for everyone involved.

They probably couldn't get out any other way. I agree someone should have given you a seat, but then I would have asked for one.

OP YABmassivelyU.

You can not block an exit on a train, no matter what your excuse. If the exits were full, you were presumably asking people to walk down the carriage and fight their way through another crowd of people at the other doors, meaning they could very well have missed their stop.

I commuted into central London every day for almost 9 months, with my baby (she was in my staff nursery). We did it with slings and/or the buggy, I've found commuters, much like people in general, to sometimes be helpful and sometimes be rude. But when you are planning to get on public transport at peak times then you need to do as much as humanly possible to minimise the disruption you cause; not least to help yourself!

So if I had the buggy with me (which collapsed into two parts), I would make sure I either got on the train in the wheelchair/bike/buggy storage area so I could park up, or I would choose to get the bus which had a designated buggy space, or if neither of those were possible I would arrive in good time for the train, put DD in a ring sling with my stuff in a rucksack, collapse the buggy (it was two parts so a pita but it was possible) and get on that way. Invariably when watching me collapse a buggy and carry the parts with a baby in a sling, someone would help me.

And if the train was utterly heaving and I had the buggy with me then I just wouldn't get on, same as I wouldn't attempt to get on a crushed train with a tonne of luggage or a bike. I would wait for the next one.

I wouldn't risk my baby in the crush and I wouldn't want to inconvenience anyone else further.

Travelling with small kids and luggage etc can be tough, that's why you need to plan ahead, do as much as you can to minimise inconvenience to yourself and other passengers.

Acting like you did is not going to win you any help.

Also I think we've all misinterpreted: "Commuters are always rude with no time for anyone IME" to mean "Commuters are always rude with no time for anyone IME."

What it clearly actually means is "Commuters seem to think they have as much right to get the train as me, and may even want to get off at the stop nearest to where they live. They haven't all had the memo about not on any account disturbing me, my sidekick or my Audacity Baby with such piffling concerns as wishing to return home to their own families, evenings and lives. Thus, they are tossers."

I would not post something like this on AIBU if just looking for a bit of sympathy!

I personally think commuters are twats

What, all million [[http://www.neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/HTMLDocs/dvc193/]] of them? That's an awfully big survey you've conducted there OP.

culture it's not everyone, but I find a lot of them push and shove, don't speak politely to others, and hog seats with bags.

Thurlow no one here uses luggage racks I've never seen anyone use them

Bollocks. 11-odd million that should read. No idea what happened there!

If it's 'the last straw' plan your shopping trips better so you can avoid all those hideous, idiotic commuters and nasty middle class, middle aged people.

Audacity Baby
Brilliant!

Because you were acting like a douche. Also, you weren't asking for patience, you were asking for an entire section of the train to be exclusive to you after your wee jaunt.

No I wasn't. I couldn't move anywhere.

OP the more you post the more twatty you sound.

And that's the reason why it's fine for you to think it is acceptable to block a door, and shout at other people for wanting to use that door?

Unfortunately TheCatsMeow most commuters don't have a choice. You're not showing yourself in a great light by calling people who are just trying to get to and from work and earn a living twats.

I live in a London commuter zone and if you think a train that didn't have people in the aisles was packed then you ain't seen nothing!!

I've paid for a seat just like you.

No you haven't paid for a seat at all.

no one here uses luggage racks I've never seen anyone use them

Start a trend, then...