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To not move on the train?

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TheCatsMeow · 12/01/2016 12:30

I was on a very busy packed train with my friend and DS. DS was in a sling, we had the buggy and I was feeding him. We were standing by the doors (no one offered us seats!) trying to feed a screaming baby, penned in by others standing. There was no where we could go.

People tried to push past us to get out the doors and nearly sent DS flying. I firmly asked if they could use one of the other doors and I literally couldn't go anywhere. Cue mutterings and dirty looks!

We couldn't collapse the pram there wasn't room to do and as no one had offered a seat we couldn't move anywhere! WIBU to ask them to use another door?

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Whatthefreakinwhatnow · 12/01/2016 14:35

Indeed emotion!

I'm so glad I wasn't the one with her on the train, I'd be mortified if one of my friends acted like such aattention seeking special snowflake!

I would have been straight on here to tell you about it if someone did! Grin

Cheby · 12/01/2016 14:35

OP, what if there had been another entitled mum at the other doors blocking it with a pram?! I mean if it's OK for you surely it's ok for someone else too?

PaulAnkaTheDog · 12/01/2016 14:36

What part of expecting people to work around you, yet you not bothering to do the same is patience. This clearly isn't going anywhere, you're so deluded sure you're correct. Perhaps we should all just club together and buy you a golden carriage, just for you, no one else. Probably would be less painful than this thread.

AskingForAPal · 12/01/2016 14:36

Don't be silly, Cheby! See my posts above.

WorraLiberty · 12/01/2016 14:37

If the carriages were clear of people standing in them, I'm not sure how you can describe the train as a 'very busy packed' one?

Katarzyna79 · 12/01/2016 14:37

Op was in wrong but its hard to fold abuggy with one hand. I know even my 3 yr old would do a runner nevermind an18 month old. But could have asked staff on platform or someone with a kind face near you to hold baby whilst you folded the pram or if not comfy your bags?

I think you are right tho most ppl are intolerant of kids in the uk funny even those who habe older kids seem tohave forgotten patience. If kid whines and wont be queit oh she must be abad mother nevermind this is watbabies do? we live in a selfish society pplwant things speedily or else u get tuts rolling eyes and road rage.

i always thght cities should offer stroller hiring so if youre in another town you can hire one out at train or bus station or even supermarket makesife easier for parents. Much like hiring bikes out.

TheCatsMeow · 12/01/2016 14:37

I didn't shout at anyone. Just said "can you use the other door because I can't move".

How is it my fault there were people in front and behind me blocking me in?!

And I'm nowhere near London so the London centric responses aren't relevant

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TheCatsMeow · 12/01/2016 14:39

Katarzyna stroller hiring would be a really good idea.

I think the UK in general is intolerant of children

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TheCatsMeow · 12/01/2016 14:39

If the carriages were clear of people standing in them, I'm not sure how you can describe the train as a 'very busy packed' one?

The seats were taken and people were standing in the doorways.

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PrivatePike · 12/01/2016 14:39

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PaulAnkaTheDog · 12/01/2016 14:39

People blocking you in, you blocked people in, everyone got blocked in thanks to a sodding buggy blocking the door. You still not seeing the problem? 😂😂😂

LuciaInFurs · 12/01/2016 14:40

It's always middle class middle aged snooty types as well. Young people and elderly people are always more than happy to help.

Reverse discrimination is still discrimination.

OP, I think you should take the time to read some of the initial responses. You really were being unreasonable and I'll bet that a good majority of the people on your train who spend thousands of pounds commuting in the equivalent of a hot and sweaty tin can that is uncomfortable at the best of times are parents.

Train doors are not open for long you really cannot expect people to walk across busy platforms or train to use a different set of doors because you tell them to.

wannaBe · 12/01/2016 14:40

Look, travelling into and out of London at rush hour is hell on earth for everyone, including the commuters.

And the reality is that if you choose to travel into and out of the city at rush hour then you take the chance that it's going to A, be busy, B, you may have to stand, C, not everyone is going to be in a jolly happy mood because they don't want to be squashed into a train like sardines any more than you do, but, unlike you, they have no choice since they have to make that journey at that time in order to be at/get home from work.

But in life you will meet numerous people, some nice, some not so nice, and in general most people's attitudes to you will depend on your attitude to them. Entitled travellers with bags on seats can be asked to move them, but that wasn't a point of discussion here. If there had been bags on seats you could have asked one to move, given you were able to tell people to go to a different door how is it you couldn't ask someone to move their bag? Hmm.

If I travel into the city at rush hour then I do so with plenty of time to be flexible e.g. To allow for crowds on the tubes, and I also do so in the awareness that I may be abused for taking my guide dog on to the escalators and having to block the way behind me so he can run off. But on the whole most people are decent, polite, and even helpful without being asked for help.

If however you come across as entitled people will be less inclined to want to help you or even be courteous towards you. Why should they?

PrivatePike · 12/01/2016 14:40

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Julius02 · 12/01/2016 14:40

If you ask if you were being unreasonable and everyone tells you that you were being unreasonable then you probably were...... Smile

PrivatePike · 12/01/2016 14:41

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IoraRua · 12/01/2016 14:42

Jfc. Yabu.
And that's really all I'm going to bother saying to you as despite a thread full of people trying to explain, you're still convinced you were in the right.

TheCatsMeow · 12/01/2016 14:42

In the UK people are more likely to huff at kids in restaurants, on public transport, in shops and have a children should be seen and not heard attitude. It's not the same in every country.

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Shutthatdoor · 12/01/2016 14:42

I think the UK in general is intolerant of children

No, they are intolerant of their mothers blocking door exits.

What has this got to do with your child? This whole situation is of your own making.

TheCatsMeow · 12/01/2016 14:42

Pike I posted that ages ago

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miaowmix · 12/01/2016 14:43

OP nailed it. We all hate children in the UK. Especially those middle class, middle aged ones of us who commute (BINGO). Twats with jobs that they have to get to on time. Twats! Some of us twats with children too, but we probably still hate them.

OP YOU are right and everybody else is a twat. Except your friend.
Flowers.

TheCatsMeow · 12/01/2016 14:43

Because no one allows any dispensation for mothers. It's all about sodding commuters.

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PaulAnkaTheDog · 12/01/2016 14:43

Oh ffs, the UK is not intolerant of children. The UK is intolerant (and rightly so) of jumped up mothers, who seem to think because they pushed out a sprog gave birth (like millions do everyday) they should have special treatment and everyone should kowtow to them.

Most people here are mothers (myself included). We have all now suggested you get a grip, so I really don't think that intolerance bollocks is going to fly, do you?

PunkrockerGirl · 12/01/2016 14:44

You didn't pay for seat, OP, you paid to travel.

Nottodaythankyouorever · 12/01/2016 14:44

In the UK people are more likely to huff at kids in restaurants, on public transport, in shops and have a children should be seen and not heard attitude.

I disagree and I have lived all over the world

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