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This is an OTT reaction from crazed DP isn't it??

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LemmysMole · 02/01/2016 22:56

I feel like I'm going crazy.

Earlier dp confused me for his ex for the 2nd time in two days (another thread). On top of this he's been really argumentative and snappy with me for the past week or so - example was recently snapping at me when I mentioned our upcoming wedding saying he was sick of hearing about it. He also seems to have gone off sex and even seems reluctant to kiss me giving me a quick kiss then pulling away.

So tonight when he again confused a time with his ex for a time with me I got upset, told him I was pissed off and when he came to hug me I declined (he does this to me ALL the time! I very rarely do it).

Anyway he shut himself away in the dining room. I gave him 20 minutes or so then went in asking if he was going to watch the movie with me. He said "no". I said "don't be like this, I was upset, can we forget it?" And he went into full blown crazed mode - said I wasn't to touch him or go near him, said he was going to call the police if I went near him, started to call the police when I went to hug him. Told me to fuck off and "do one" ... I started to cry (unusual) and told him I didn't want to argue and he carried kicking off at me - physically pushed me away when I went to hug him, refused to talk to me, said he was 'livid' with me and didn't want me near him and when I begged him to stop it (honestly he was acting like a mad man jumping around saying I was abusing him) he imitated me saying I was a drama queen and how hard must it be to live with such a bastard.

Even if I initially over reacted about the reference to his ex (which I fully admit) surely his response is bat shit crazy?? Or is it me?? I really wonder some times

OP posts:
Sandbrook · 03/01/2016 01:13

Some very level headed and kind advice here OP.
Amazing the kindness and compassion of strangers. Don't let it be for nothing. Help yourself Flowers

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/01/2016 01:22

I'm on your other thread OP. This thread is deeply worrying. He is treating you horribly and I think cheating. He definitely isn't marrying material, even if he wanted to. Which I think he doesn't.

Some men are too cowardly and insecure to split up and have to 'make' you do it. i suggest you do it quickly.

FreakinScaryCaaw · 03/01/2016 01:25

So sorry you're going through this. I hope you can be brave and get out. Start making a future for yourself.

Once you're free try to do things to build up your self confidence. Assertive classes perhaps? New hobbies. And of course keep posting on here for support.

Maybe there are mumsnetters nearby who can support you?

Iwonderwhy123 · 03/01/2016 01:35

Trust your instincts and get away from this man.
Smoking the cannabis can make him paranoid and aggressive, especially if it's not pure and mixed with other crap. Are you sure that's all he's taking?
I'm sorry but it sounds to me like he's cheating too.
I know it feels like your world is falling apart but you need to get away NOW to a safe place with friends or family and end this relationship.

LikeADivil · 03/01/2016 01:44

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Skzr1214 · 03/01/2016 01:48

LikeADivil
Are you that man?

LemmysMole · 03/01/2016 01:50

Funny how I immediately though likeadivell was dp posting from downstairs

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Homebird8 · 03/01/2016 02:07

Regardless of whether he wants to marry you or not, and I think like many posters that he doesn't, you do not want to marry him. You might want to marry, and you might want him to be the one, but nobody would choose to marry (before they got into a relationship) someone who behaves like this man.

It's time to start thinking about how entwined your lives are. Who owns where you live? Are your finances still separate? Can any money be salvaged from the wedding preparations?

And if the PP is actually DP then man up and tell her. You are obviously weeks ahead in this process and you owe her that much.

HawkEyeTheNoo · 03/01/2016 02:12

Why would you even consider marrying this man? You don't need this to carry on, you will be posting here for years asking why did you do it

SmillasSenseOfSnow · 03/01/2016 02:24

As horrible as his behaviour is, when someone sits there stone faced and passively lets you hug them, and/or accuses you of abuse/assault because you won't get away from them when they've told you to stop trying to hug them, unless you're having a major breakdown yourself you STOP bloody well touching them. I don't actually think he's too far wrong on the assault thing, though whether it would ever be actionable I don't know. Stop touching him for god's sake, you're not getting anything good back anyway!

furryblanket · 03/01/2016 02:41

I detest how much it's thrown around that weed isn't as destructive as other drugs, I've seen so many people (including my own mother and an ex) completely change when off/on it regularly that it's insane.

I'm so sorry OP, but you can't accept this behaviour - he's being (and has been - just read your other thread) a complete twat. This isn't about him not wanting to marry you, this is your opportunity to escape from this relationship. The implication that he's trying to get out implies that you're being dumped. If you leave now/tomorrow/this week then it's you self preserving and nothing to do with that complete cunt's decision.

LagunaBubbles · 03/01/2016 02:47

This relationship is over. You need to realise this OP and leave it before your physical and emotional health are at further risk.

Italiangreyhound · 03/01/2016 02:52

Lemmy Are there any children in the home?

Are you safe to be there if he has smoked 6 joints and had a load of alcohol? What is the accommodation situation, his home or your home or shared? Can you get advice from Women's Aid? Can you call the police?

Please do not tell him you are doing this, it may make him worse. It really looks to me like he is attempting to set you up as some kind of abuser. I feel you are in danger there.

www.womensaid.org.uk/

I agree with ImperialBlether re You need to get away from him or get him away from you, one or the other. and Yourarejokingme re Please leave before this escalates future. Do not engage with him at all.

Re His excuse for pushing me is that I "assaulted" him first when I hugged him uninvited. His was self defence. Apparently.

Please do not touch him again unless it is in self defence. He really sounds very dangerous.

Italiangreyhound · 03/01/2016 02:59

Lemmy Re I have nobody close to me, I'm very much an introvert which I feel has made me so bloody emotionally dependant on him. I was sobbing on him and he just sat stone faced telling me to fuck off and stop the drama. The coldness he shows towards me hurts so much. He never apologises and will make out tomorrow that this was all my doing and the worst bit about it is - I know I'll end up believing him.

PLEASE please revaluate your life NOW! Is this what you really want, to be sobbing on the sholder or a man who is GASLIGHTING you!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting

You said I'm scared, I know that sounds soft as shit but I love this man and I see my whole world falling apart in front of my eyes.

Can you tell us why you love him? He is only your whole world because you have not cultivated other friendships and activities.

Can you really see a future with him???

Well, I can see a future that is very unhappy! But beyond that.....

As Arfarfanarf says If you marry him, youre marrying HIM. the person who is doing this to you.

Can you imagine if you had children together, would you feel safe with him in charge of your children?

Well being the soft shit that I am I just went to him, asked him if we could talk tomorrow but make up tonight and he said he was far too angry to even look at me - said he feels like going for advice about the abusive he suffers from me and said he feels like chucking the whole thing because he's sick of me.

Re I'm that lonely I have fantasies of being with another man just for one night - just to feel wanted and feel affection and passion. I'm starting to forget what it's like. Can you really even contemplate marrying a man who makes you want to have an affair before you are even married becuse you are so lonely.

Topseyt · 03/01/2016 03:02

If OP suspected Likeadivil was the DP posting from elsewhere in the house then that is extremely concerning!

Calling the police would be the best thing.

Do not marry this arsehole.

KiwiJude · 03/01/2016 03:02

He's an arse. He's not brave enough to tell you he doesn't want to marry you so he's trying to make you do the breaking up. He is clearly telling you who he is; for your sake, listen and leave. Also, stop trying to hug him, again you're not listening.

furryblanket · 03/01/2016 03:11

Having just had a snoop through likeadivil's thread history, he appears to be a drunken, emotionally and verbally abusive male. Not surprised by his response. Although would be surprised if he's yours, OP, as he seems to have a young baby...

TheTigerIsOut · 03/01/2016 03:22

I'm not quite sure there is a clear victim here. He is acting in a very aggressive way but she is ignoring his requests to give him some space and smoothering him with love and requests to fix things up when he clearly wants to be left alone. That is also abuse.

If he is behaving like that because she keeps hugging him despite his requests not to do so, I don't think the police needs to be called, she just needs to back off and leave him alone for the time being and call the wedding off.

TheTigerIsOut · 03/01/2016 03:28

And yes, the title of this thread is quite revealing, she is calling the man "crazed DP" because he gets angry when she is trying to hug him against his will?

Not all abusers are men, both parts are to blame on this, I think.

furryblanket · 03/01/2016 03:34

Tiger Let's not forget that he is also (very) high on drugs, drunk and her 'abuse' is that she's trying to make things better despite him being consistently horrible to her...

knobblyknee · 03/01/2016 03:44

You've had a bad feeling for weeks. Things have not been going well.
Now he wigs out and doesnt want you anywhere near him.

You are either going to hear it and deal with it or you are going to switch off and try to fix it again.

Make plans to protect yourself and leave asap.

Italiangreyhound · 03/01/2016 04:02

You said I've known something was up and I've found myself being clingy, emotional and a bit pathetic. Please stop running yourself down. You are not soft or pathetic (you called yourself a soft shit earlier on the thread). You are stuck with a man who is incapable of being loving and also incapable of telling you the truth. I think he is dangerous and and at the very least you should not marry him and personally I would not want to even be in the house with him. please get yourself free of him, and start to rebuild your life. I think if you want to help yourself in the long run you could try some assertiveness training from the charity Mind'.... BUT that is something for the future, the main thing now is to escape this awful man. please do not make any commitment to him, he is not worthy of you!

LikeADivil stupid comments.

furryblanket well done for noticing the previous thrad he had commented on.

Lenny Please ignore any posters who are trying to make you the bad person here, you are not. There may be reasons why your partner is acting in this way but they are not excuses and they are not your fault.

SmillasSenseOfSnow re I don't actually think he's too far wrong on the assault thing, though whether it would ever be actionable I don't know. He is trying to gaslight the Op into thinking she is at fault She is not at fault.

Tiger re I'm not quite sure there is a clear victim here. Have you read the thread? He has almost hit her, and he has pushed her, he is high on drink and drugs, both parts are not to blame. That is presumably your opinion. I think that is crazy.

The OP is getting enough gaslightening from her abusive partner, please do not join in!

Italiangreyhound · 03/01/2016 04:18

SmillasSenseOfSnow and Tiger I am sorry if that sounds over he top. Blush

I am not thinking you are trying to gaslight her on purpose, I just think that trying to hug someone who you are meant to be in love with and about to marry when they are upset, having just written your wedding invitations out etc, is not abuse! It is unwise because this man seems dangerous and volatil!

But the Op's actions do not make her dangeriou. She is not dangerous to this man (from what she has writeen here) but he is most definiatly dangerous to her.

She needs to gather her strenth and get anway not question herself and be 'told off'' at this moment IMHO.

WahhHelpMe · 03/01/2016 05:15

It could be the Cannabis, but and I'm
Just a random person on the Internet and apart from family with issues, have no medical training, I thought perhaps mental health issues, it could be that he is genuinely forgetting and getting upset/ angry about it and it's spiralling, or he could be genuinely confused. Either way it's unpleasant and you could/should leave whether it is a MH issue or not as you could be in danger.

shellistar · 03/01/2016 05:18

Lemmy I hardly ever post but if it wasn't for the smoking I would have thought you were posting about my XH. Just in case you are his last initial was N so PM me!

XH did exactly the same to me during the almost 6 years we were together. I went from a bubbly, bright, confident and self assured woman to quite literally a shell of a human being, just going through the motions every day because of his emotional and increasingly violent abuse.

It started off small, comments about little things to make sure I stepped into line. For example at the time I was mostly estranged from my immediate family (I am now fully NC) for various reasons and early on I remember he made a general comment about how those with family issues needed extra emotional support and how he thought people like that were a drain etc. Instead of fleeing for the hills I chose instead to self moderate to ensure I never let my emotions regarding my family show.

It progressed over the years to the point where if we had arguments he would escalate them with emotional abuse (pathetic/useless/fat/scum/etc) to a point where I was a crying mess and then he would film me and threaten to show the police/family/friends/work because I was unhinged and I'd go to jail/lose my job/friends/etc.

The people saying you're in the wrong for trying to touch him have no idea what it is like. I used to do the same. When he was screaming maniacally at me I'd be begging him to stop, in absolute pieces and thinking that human contact would calm him and make him stop and realise I was a person I would lightly touch his forearm and he would literally jump back as if I'd touched him with a hot poker screaming and raving that I'd assaulted him and he would have me arrested etc. It was all to minimise his actions and to gaslight me into thinking I was the person in the wrong and he was justified in his response.

I stupidly married this man even though he was doing this to me because I loved him and I had no one and we'd already paid the deposit on our wedding and what would people think and... All reasons that I believed were important and stopped me from seeing sense.

You say you're alone but you probably don't realise who is there for you. I had no one. Literally no one. We lived in a town with his family and friends. I lost literally everything the day I left but surprisingly I wasn't alone. People that I'd kept at a distance, because I was hiding the abuse, we're there for me. For me, my support came through Aunts and work friends that I didn't realise how close I was to. My boss offered to put me in a hotel on the works account until I found a place, a colleague offered a loan for a deposit on a rented room in a house share (spare room.com), another colleague was so worried about me going to strangers houses to look for rooms to live he drove me to them and sat waiting for me to make sure I was safe. Two casual friendships I'd kept at a distancd listened to me go on and on for months about how I was feeling and we are now best friends.

I became whole again. I got my confidence back. On the way to happiness I started a new hobby and made a load more friends and gained a new support system. I had a few dodgy dates with a guy I'd snogged at a party (admittedly he messed me around but I credit him with getting me back on the horse as he fancied someone (me) who'd been repeatedly told she was disgusting and would never be loved) met my fiancé online and admit he is someone I'd never have considered before the abuse because I wouldn't have taken the time to appreciate him and his loveliness!

I'm still broken inside and I still have moments when the darkness my XH caused surrounds me but every day is better since I left 4 years ago and I'm getting back to the bright, bubbly, strong confident woman I am.

Please don't be me, don't let yourself believe you have nothing and no one. Please believe me when I say he won't change no matter how much you cry and beg or how remorseful he is the day after. Please get out before he damages you like I was.

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