To think Kylie Jenner is the best looking Kardashian/Jenner

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She has progressed so much, she definitely the new Kim.

She might be......it's hard to tell when she's always plastered in heavy makeup and unflattering hair extensions.

I've always thought Kourtney a natural beauty.

Respect her decisions

How can something that is wrong be respected. How can anyone possibly think having plastic surgery to simply change how you look is a good thing of course her mother and father are to blame

I don't have a problem with fashion or makeup - I'm stating my opinion that her makeup and styling is unflattering on her.

Who constitutes the "society" putting these women on a pedestal?

She is a young adult now but this started when she was 16.

I like love make up and fashion, but I'm not going to lie, I think fillers look make people look stupid.

I worry that they are becoming so normal these days.

There is nothing "wrong" with plastic surgery.

sooty the media and those who buy it, but it's bigger than that.

She looks like the ruined, self-obsessed, over-privileged waste of media space that she is.

"Not her fault, it's society's for putting celebs on a pedestal"

haha at the rather dark irony there TaliZorah; tell me, was it intentional ?

Oh and I didn't say it was her fault.

Just that there was a discussion to be had about it.

I wonder sometimes how ethical it is for plastic surgeons to operate cosmetically like this.

My 4 year old saw a picture of her in a magazine recently and exclaimed Who is that, she is so ugly! I was really shocked, have never heard her say a negative word about anyone before. I'm guessing that we as adults are conditioned by the media to think that the overly surgically enhanced, trout pout look is attractive while to a child it just looks so unnatural it's grotesque.

No. its all smoke and mirrors. and oceans of make up and good lighting.
she has a funny little squashed up face.

kendall is now the best looking. kim was, until she fucked with her face once too often.

Pepper I don't put her on a pedestal. I know nothing about her other than what she looks like.

Can't give a crap about celebs, they're just people and I hate people being rude about others for no reason

Of course there is something wrong with having plastic surgery to change the way you look especially starting at such a young age

I'm not a fan of plastic surgery or fillets/Botox etc. Correcting an obvious and real defect such a mismatched boobs or a wonky nose seems more acceptable.

Kylies lips are a bit ridiculous looking to me. She looks like her lips are about to explode.

Agreed - Enthusiasm

Why is there something wrong with it? It's personal choice, if someone wants to change their look that is fine,

Having a daughter who has has to have numerous surgical procedures over her short life I think any surgery which is not medically needed is wrong. Surgery is not a need, its painful, dangerous and risky. I can't imagine any reason I would let my children have unnecessary surgery just so they look better.

The risks are minimal as long as someone understands the risks it's none of anyone's business

You don't think there's any societal influence involved in a teenage girl wanting irreversible surgery to change her looks? None at all?

Well no, I think Kendall is the best looking, personally.

Kylie is too cartoon-like IMO and doesn't look anything like herself. I can't advocate that at all.

There might be, there might not be. We don't know her.

I don't think you understand the point that people are making Tali

I wonder that too Sooty

Who encourages them yes Ms Disturbed your nose is hardly there, your lips are three times the size they were, your teeth could light up the Milky Way, your hair line is behind your ears, you constantly look surprised but there is something we could do to make you look even more tragic better

It's addictive

It's the same boring point.

Women who choose to alter their appearance are insecure/victims of sexism/propping up the patriarchy/sad/etc.

It's crap