fucking play station

[FlatOnTheHill]

DS glued to the poxy thing. He is 15 a good boy. Does go out and see mates so sociable. Does not bring me amy trouble. Studies hard at school. Somim very lucky. But when he is on that thing, I call it 'the machine'. He plays GTA with mates and all you can hear is him shouting out ya mother fucker" or fucking get ouuut my way or oi you ya silly prick etc etc.

I have spoken to my friends about this and work colleagues and they say their sons are the same
Would point out does not act like this when not on play station.
AIBU in wanting to launch the fucking thing out the window or accidentally on purpose cut the wires. He has been on GTA for about a year. Drives me nuts. And when I go flying in his bedroom to tell him off he goes mad shouting at me. As I said only behaves like this when on that poxy 'machine'

Tali is is seen by many as a mark of disrespect, therefore bad manners. Also children hearing the swear words might start using them.

itsmine no because it's informal. I don't see why you should have to use formal language at home though!

Not RTF

My 16.5 year old plays some games which are 18, but not many and never, ever GTA. He has asked for it, I refuse to let him have it in my house. Other games I'm ok with though.

Yeah, there is some swearing when he is playing games, but that can happen with any age rating game, so it's not the game itself. When it gets too much he gets a warning, second time he is off. When all of them get together to play a board game I will hear some swearing when it gets competitive.

I'm not too strict on swearing but they know that once they cross my line they will be stopping whatever it is they are doing until they can get control of themselves.

do you think people with coloured hair, tattoos, piercings, unconventional styles of dress, certain accents and so on should not wear it/have that colour/speak differently in case some poor soul happens to be offended?

Nobody said anything like that. You are twisting this to suit your own agenda. My son has or has had piercings, coloured hair and an interesting dress style. He has never called me a knob or a dick and I'd be astonished if he'd ever called anyone "motherfucker".

Oh and thanks for enlightening us what piss means- why anyone who is capable of going to the lavatory on their own needs to tell the world about it escapes me.

I wouldn't say I'm offended by people swearing in public I just find it uncomfortable and common and wouldn't think much of any woman or man who used the phrase 'I need a piss'

Also bastard is an abhorrent word, it is awful and the meaning behind it a lot of people find it very offensive. Same with another word that a thread was about when their teen DD had used it and the majority of posters were pretty blasé about it, I thought it was disgusting

Yet again, most of you talking about how horrible it is have no idea what is in the game.

I don't actually know anything about it. My comments on here are that I don't think it is normal or acceptable for a teenager (or for that matter adults)to be swearing in the way others seem to think is fine.

More do you think people with coloured hair, tattoos, piercings, unconventional styles of dress, certain accents and so on should not wear it/have that colour/speak differently in case some poor soul happens to be offended?

Tali, of course not. You know the answer to that.
The things you mention above are not generally accepted as offensive. Swearing, violence, scenes of drug taking, explicit sex or sexual violence are. It is why they are regulated on TV by the Watershed and children are protected by age ratings.

You are diverting away from the issue. Hairstyles are not offensive.

Tali is trying to make out we are all a bunch of Hyacinth Buckets who would be horrified at any alternative lifestyle. Which is wrong and deeply patronising. Unless of course she really doesn't understand that good manners and consideration for others has nothing to do with what you wear.

I'm not saying anyone's horrified by alternative lifestyles, just saying that someone being uncomfortable by something (swearing, dress sense) doesn't mean the other person has to stop doing it.

I definitely think this is generational. I'm not from a particularly disadvantaged area and almost every young person I know swears.

I'm a bit disappointed at "common" comments, blatant classism

Then why raise dress? Did you think anyone was going to fall for it?

And as for saying swearing is no different from dress- seriously it's not.

So far as class- I do not know nor care where you come from or what school you went to. I don't think anyone who behaves in the way you apparently do is "classy" whether they are from a sink school on a sink estate or landed gentry.

Tali So if the TV presenters were reporting on a shit load of rain causing a fucking nightmare for poor sods in the north and what are the walking bastards in government going to do about it would you be fine with that?

Or if Peppa shouted 'shut the fuck up about dinosaurs' to George, is that ok?

I said teens. I already said its adult language and I wouldn't expect little kids to swear.

I really don't get the offense at a 15 year old swearing at a game

Lass it's another harmless issue that makes some people uncomfortable. If you're uncomfortable with swearing that's your problem. Don't swear in your own house but you've got no right to moan about people swearing in public

Don't swear in your own house but you've got no right to moan about people swearing in public

Actually I have every right to moan about it and be as judgemental about it as I want. If I have the misfortune of sitting in a pub or a restaurant beside you and your friends I have every right to moan about it to whoever I am with. And to vote with my feet and leave. Oddly however I don't tend to bump into people who behave like this in the places I go to.

Should I let my child play gta - answered by the GTA Forum Your call

Lass if it's not harming you you have no right to moan about anyone's behaviour

Oh but I do. How very intolerant of you to dictate what I may or may not moan about. Should we actually be in the same restaurant for example it would also be entirely up to the owner , if he or she thought your behaviour was making others uncomfortable , to decide which customer they would prefer. Unlike itsmine I probably wouldn't say anything to you.

I think you're an elaborate troll to be honest then deal it in the appropriate manner. I'm sure you know MNHQ's policy, which you have just broken.

No they don't. If the behaviour is having no effect on you then you're not in any position to complain. I suppose you can moan, but to expect others to conform to your idea when it isn't harming anyone is ridiculous.

It's a public space you do not have the right to impose your way of doing things on people.

What policy have I broken? I haven't insulted you anywhere or "troll hunted" you by searching your posts or anything

It's not the game! It's the person playing it! My brother has been playing video games since he was 6. He is now 28 and has never raised his hand to a woman. Despite playing GTA.

Tali - you're 22 and you have a baby who is a few months' old. You have very little experience of adult life and even less of parenting.

And despite that inexperience, rather than learning from older women, you constantly argue and think you know best about pretty much every subject you choose to comment on. It's unbelievably wearing and very fucking immature.

I'm not saying older women are always right but for christ's sake, just STFU sometimes and listen. You might actually learn something.

elf yep I agree to a certain extent with that and in this case the ops DS has shown he is not mature enough to be playing that game

I really don't see the issue with GTA. DP plays it and it's one of the ones I don't mind him playing whilst we're hanging out or in reading on the sofa. It's got quite a fun story line and it really isn't all about killing prostitutes. It's also make believe. Not real. And if your partners or children can't distinguish make believe from reality there are more problems than GTA.