fucking play station

[FlatOnTheHill]

DS glued to the poxy thing. He is 15 a good boy. Does go out and see mates so sociable. Does not bring me amy trouble. Studies hard at school. Somim very lucky. But when he is on that thing, I call it 'the machine'. He plays GTA with mates and all you can hear is him shouting out ya mother fucker" or fucking get ouuut my way or oi you ya silly prick etc etc.

I have spoken to my friends about this and work colleagues and they say their sons are the same
Would point out does not act like this when not on play station.
AIBU in wanting to launch the fucking thing out the window or accidentally on purpose cut the wires. He has been on GTA for about a year. Drives me nuts. And when I go flying in his bedroom to tell him off he goes mad shouting at me. As I said only behaves like this when on that poxy 'machine'

I never said you couldn't kill a prostitute, I said it wasn't part of the story line or side missions. Do you know what that means? Do you know enough about the game to be in a position to have a sensible discussion on it? I don't think so.

If you want to fight a woman's cause do us all a favour and go find a real one!

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You are correct. It is not part of the game.

I've always loved that argument. You can't object to violent video games, strip clubs, prostitution, porn without fully experiencing it. So buy GTA, play the entire thing (having given them your money of course and incentivised them making more) then you can object.

Actually DH is a keen gamer (just got a shiny PS4 for Christmas) and he plays CoD and so on. He thinks GTA is repugnant.

I simply don't think a game which has that content (whether it's part of the plot or not) should be played by minors. I actually think a game like that shouldn't be made. Not banned, because that's not the point. Just not made because people have better things to do.

I'd rather get het up about the 11 year old girl addicted to porn that her parents seemed to be powerless to stop than 15 year olds playing an adult game tbh

MrsTerryPratchett - If you are going to object to something then you need to know what it is you're objecting to. So you object to GTA on the basis that in the game there's an option to kill a prostitute and steal her money. You can kill and steal anyone's money in the game. You don't seem to object to hundreds of men being killed in the main story line, why is that?

You don't think games like GTA should be made, there's a lot worse in some movies, books and songs etc should they not be made either? Should we just stick to Disney?

Wasn't GTA developed in Scotland? Probably pays for the pensions of the occupants of a large town in the UK with the tax made on the exports.

15 and a 'good boy' or not, if my ds acted like that on the PS3 it would be sold on Ebay sharpish.
So what if all his friends do the same and talk like that? Reminds me of the saying when I was growing up I got off my Dad - "if Johnny jumped off a cliff, would you follow?"
Absolutely not acceptable.
My ds is currently banned on the ps3 until further notice, and that's 'only' because his behaviour changes dramatically after being on it. (Nothing to do with inappropriate games, as there's no way he'd be allowed on anything like GTA.)
If he behaved like your son, then continued doing it after being told to stop, he'd be kissing goodbye to it and never being allowed on it again!
There comes a point when you have to parent. Not be their mate.

Oh do fuck off with the elderly arguments. I'm not elderly and I swear plenty, thanks. I just understand that actually young children don't automatically understand when it's appropriate for them to swear and when it isn't unless their parents teach them. Which I'm sure Tali will find too when her child is a bit older.

And in a wider context, I'm really, really bored of people like her and several other people on this thread telling me that I don't get it because I'm not a teenager or young. No, I'm not, but I am a parent.

There are responsibilities that go with being a parent, however old you are. And one of them is understanding the impact that the pornification of popular culture is having on young people. For example, there is a normalisation of coercive and unsafe anal sex among young people. This isn't control freakery or being fuddy duddy, it's a very real concern about sexual practices among young people which are very harmful to young women in particular. See here.

This isn't fun, it's deadly serious. And the minimisation that's going on here is revolting.

The OP and all parents of teenage children - and those approaching their teenage years - need to talk to their children about it. Dismissing it and/or worrying that you're going to come across as uncool or controlling is not doing your children any favours at all. Or society as a whole for that matter.

You don't seem to object to hundreds of men being killed in the main story line, why is that? In order to care about male violence against women, it's not actually compulsory to care about male violence against men. I know we're told we have to but actually, we don't. I can care about ponies but not donkeys, seals but not whales, global warming but not acid rain.

I've worked with prostituted women and seen the violence against them. Horrible, sexual, evil violence. So I care about that. I don't much care if men want to develop a game played by men where men kill men. I don't like it but not my circus, not my monkeys.

I'm hiding this thread now. I'm writing things that are sarcastic and mean spirited. Sorry.

Swearing is just words. Fair enough to not want to be sworn AT but you'd get offended if you heard someone say "I need a piss" or "fucking hell" in public?

Not offended as such. I would be thinking that you were pig ignorant, possibly uneducated and definitely rough/common.
Might not mean anything to you swearing, but people will definitely be perceiving you in an unflattering light.

Women play the game too MrsTerryPratchett, me included, but there you go with your silly assumptions again. I'd also be very surprised if women were not involved in the making of the game.

If you're going to object to violence in games, films etc then at least be sensible enough to object to all violence.

Concentrate on the women who do suffer in real life, not the cartoon make believe ones.

Kryptonite that says far more about you. Id rather be surrounded by people who swear but are down to earth than someone who looks down at people and writes someone off as "common" because they happened to hear them swear

Lynda I nor any other poster have said coercive sexual practises are okay. its disgusting.

That being said, providing you talk to your kids about these serious issues, I don't think there's much harm in games.

DS went to a friends yesterday, then came home and said "we played GTA until I remembered I'm not allowed to play it, so we went downstairs and played with X's Christmas presents.

I wonder what in the game prompted DS to remember he's not allowed to play it?

Anyway, what I was going to say is, if you let your DC do things which aren't she appropriate, don't be surprised when you don't like their behaviour.

Your call what you let your teen do, but then don't whinge about the consequences.

Flat thank you. I think people get a bit annoyed when someone challenges a majority view! Glad you've found a solution

Call of Duty, a game entirely about killing is ok but GTA is entirely bad despite not being entirely about killing. I see.

Ah the monthly thread about GTA

There is no rape anywhere in the game and the story line does not involve killing any prostitutes or any other women.

A lot of people commenting about GTA know sod all about it and it's quite cringe worthy to see.

FYI if my wife told me, a 30 year old man that he couldn't play GTA I'd laugh in her face and I'd ask her who the hell does she think she is?

I don't know where this 30 year old thing is coming from? The thread is about a 15 year old playing an 18c game, shouting and swearing (quite frankly disgusting words) in ear shot of his mother, mother asks him to tone it down and she gets shouted and swore at.

I presume that if you were shouting and swearing and your wife asked you to tone it down you would comply graciously or would you also shout and swear at your wife? I'd hope a 30 year old would be able to control himself better than a 15 year old who is apparently 'mature'.

It was in response to a poster saying that she wouldn't let her DH have GTA in the house, I should have made that clear.

My wife swears like a trooper and I let out the odd swear word, she doesn't give a toss.

That's fair enough, normal for you and the question was subjective. If your wife didn't like it would you stop or would you shout at her like this 15 year old is?

Yes it probably is a bit OTT saying you wouldn't let it on the house at all, I wouldn't stop my DH playing any game but things like GTA not In front of the children etc

Yes I'd stop but if I ask her on the other hand to calm down and stop swearing she says 'fuck, fuck, fuck, fucketty, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck'. It's like clock work and I just tune it out now

that has made me laugh imagining that!

FYI if my wife told me, a 30 year old man that he couldn't play GTA I'd laugh in her face and I'd ask her who the hell does she think she is?^^
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Yes I was a bit at that post as well. I'm a woman and have been an avid player of GTA for years, I can categorically confirm that there is no raping of prostitutes, or rape in general in the main story. There are prostitutes in the open world aspect of the game which you can get the characters to interact with, but they have nothing to do with the actual story.

My eldest DS is nearly 13 and he knows we don't allow swearing in the house. If he's watching/listening to something on the iPad and we hear swearing he has to turn it off. He's got a play station and gets a bit rowdy with his mates both if they're here and with the live chat thingy, but no way I'd tolerate the bad language, it would be gadget off, mates sent home.
I've often drummed into him that how he speaks to his friends is one thing but he has to remember that parents/adults/teachers are not his mates so he has to be respectful.
He doesn't have GTA, we've had many an argument about what his friends are allowed to play, same as many parents have with their kids. He's got a couple of 16 games which DH has approved. But bottom line is my house, my rules and I'll quite happily wash his mouth out with soap if I hear some of the language mentioned in the OP.