fucking play station

[FlatOnTheHill]

DS glued to the poxy thing. He is 15 a good boy. Does go out and see mates so sociable. Does not bring me amy trouble. Studies hard at school. Somim very lucky. But when he is on that thing, I call it 'the machine'. He plays GTA with mates and all you can hear is him shouting out ya mother fucker" or fucking get ouuut my way or oi you ya silly prick etc etc.

I have spoken to my friends about this and work colleagues and they say their sons are the same
Would point out does not act like this when not on play station.
AIBU in wanting to launch the fucking thing out the window or accidentally on purpose cut the wires. He has been on GTA for about a year. Drives me nuts. And when I go flying in his bedroom to tell him off he goes mad shouting at me. As I said only behaves like this when on that poxy 'machine'

And really it doesn't matter how common it is if the op, or anyone for that matter, doesn't like the behaviour in their house then it shouldn't be happening. I can't wait till my children trot out the line 'but everyone else has it/does it'. I've been rehearsing my reply for a while now so should be perfect by the time it comes

It's perfectly normal to get frustrated with a disappointing result in any kind of game, I know I do as I'm very competitive, but I think it's reasonable to not shout and swear in the house, it's a bit different to being on a wide open football pitch with 21 other like minded individuals.

I do wish people would stop saying "and they can join the Army at 16" as if they would be popping off to war and sleeping with a machine gun.

Yes they can. But it is Junior Leaders and the Army Foundation College. More like a strict boarding school (where they WONT be able to play COD or GTA in their dorm room ) than Afghanistan.

As well as being a parent I've been a teenager. I've never raised a hand in violence in my life and yet I played any game I wanted and from the age of about 14 watcher any film I wanted.

I'd have been pretty hacked off at 15 being told I couldn't watch say Pulp Fiction or Trainspotting. Movies like that helped me to develop a love of film that I still have today.

They can be employed in the military at the age of 16 and in Dcorland they can vote. 16 year olds also marry and pay taxes.

Do you diminish the role of women of all ages in the military because they tend not to be sent to the front line?

That should say Scotland. Is there no edit function here?

Hell will freeze over before any 14yo of mine watches a film in which a man is gagged and anally raped by another man. Or any other scene of sexual violence in any film.

Your parenting style appears to be led by what might piss your child off. Good luck with that when you have a teenager.

MoreCrackThanHarlem, your 14 year old will watch 18 certificate movies but it will be done behind your back because you can't be trusted not to react in an authortitaroan and hyperbolic way.

At 14, I was capable of understanding that it was a movie and art within context is something which shouldn't be forbidden or shrouded in extra mystery.

No I don't LordBrightside. I served for 24 years (including a stint at AFC Harrogate training these 16 year old 'soldiers') and reached the rank of Warrant Officer. Why would I diminish the role of any soldier?

Was about to say the same re pulp fiction I think I was 17 before I seen that for the first time, my mum and dad had it on video (I'm 27) and no way would they have let me watch it.

On that note games have come on such a long way since I had a PlayStation in my teens, graphics are more realistic and life like compared to the likes of resident evil which was grainy, moved in slow motion and any gore didn't even look real

None of the Quentin Tarantino films are suitable below 16/17 imo and I love him films now so not getting to watch it at 14/15 didn't stop me developing a love of films

It's just that you think the fact that 16 year olds don't go to the front line makes them lesser in terms of their standing. Kids can join the army at 16 but you don't think this is a reasonable point to make regarding the rights of young adults.

Ah, so Pulp fiction is OK at 16 but not 15 and 364 days. I see.

And parents don't know their own children and can't parent with discretion on such matters?

Flat. I have two teenagers who play many 18 rated games, they know the difference between reality and fantasy and know that what happens in the games isn't real.

Studies have shown that gang violence has decreased since the popularity of these games has become the 'norm'. Young men seem to be using all the testosterone and hormones flying about by shouting a bit at computer games.

There was a really good Horizon documentary called ''Are video games really hat bad?''. It's worth a watch for any parent.

Each to their own though, I personally don't have a problem with these games and ignore the 'wrap in cotton wool' attitude of some parents. I still respect the choices they make with their children just as I would like respected for my informed choice.

My daughter has previously called me from the bathroom at sleepovers to check if a 15 cert film they were watching was OK for her. As I said previously, we have had flexibility around age certs if we felt, after discussion, they were suitable.

I absolutely trust her. I don't make decisions based on whether or not she might lie and do it anyway, or be pissed off with me. I make decisions based on what I believe to be right, using the information I have and the guidance provided by the age rating.

But the op is complaining that her son is getting angry, shouting and swearing and then shouting at her because she dared to go in and tell him to tone it down? And that isn't a problem?

The can go to an AFC or JL, but they aren't 'soldiers' until they are 18 (in respect of direct entrants) or 17 and 1/2 (for ex JL/AFC).

They can't deploy on operations until 17 and 9 months.

So using "but they can join the Army" as a reason to allow under age children to watch 18 C films or play 18 C games is a misnomer. Children at AFC or JL Regiments are no more grown up than children still at school doing their a levels - and they ARE still children.

(Which is what I said in the first place )

"He is very mature." He doesn't sound it to me [confsed]

I love these threads as those parents who allow their 15 YOs to watch / play 18 films / games very carefully explain why their kids are exempt / different / more mature than average / laws don't apply to them / they are special

It's the equivalent of all kids on MN being "above average" at school

Methinks they do protest too much

I've just asked my 15yo why she doesn't want to watch an 18 rated film or play an 18 rated game.

She said "Well because somebody who knows a lot more about the content has decided that it might not be OK for a child to watch. And I don't know how watching it would make me feel. I might be scared, upset or anxious about it. And once I've watched it, I couldn't unsee it."

That is the attitude of a mature teenager, imo.

Kids can join the army at 16 but you don't think this is a reasonable point to make regarding the rights of young adults.

It's not. Because what the hell would you be doing sending your 16 year old off to the army? Thats even stupider than letting them pretend to be in the army playing Call of Duty.

I'm bemused that anyone even needs to have the discussion, to be honest. It's like you're sitting around musing on what age its ok to give the kids a bit of crack cocaine*
Adult video games are for adult gamers. I can't see why so many of you struggle so with this very simple fact

*Now that IS hyperbole. Though still not sophistry.

She sounds great MoreCrack - and very similar to my DD1 (16 next week)

Hotpatootie Most of my boys friends parents have this experience too. I can hear shouting and swearing and do ask them to tone it down a bit, usually they are caught up in chats with friends and the game they are playing.

I have discussed this with other parents and we have come to the conclusion that this is how our boys are getting through the hormonal teenage years. I honestly don't see this behaviour carrying through to other areas of their lives. Like the OP my boys are quite chilled, laid back types.

Maybe I'm just really laid back about this type of thing and am completely wrong, who knows? I can only go by my experience and how gaming doesn't have an effect on other aspects of my teenagers lives. If I was the OP I would just ignore the swearing, he will grow out of it eventually. Probably when girls (Or boys) appear on the scene.

I keep waiting for the teenage shit to hit the fan, Bit, but so far so good. Not sure what I did to deserve her, really

Are you or your friends teenage sons shouting at you/them if you go in to speak to them/ask them to tone it down though? That's what would get my back up. Also words like motherfucker are not acceptable to me to be quite honest and I wouldn't want it used in my house