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Y1 Teacher Refused to let DS go to the toilet, resulting in sitting in mess all day.

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FreeSpirit89 · 12/12/2015 10:01

My mum picked DS1 aged 5 up from school Friday afternoon (3.15pm), He was clearly distressed, and upset. When she got him beyond the school gates he told her he had messy pants on. He said he had asked to go to the toilet before first break (10.30am) and the teacher had said no, he couldn't hold it any longer and messed his pants.

The school is aware that DS has bowel problems, they have letters on file from his consultant specialist at the hospital as well as the family GP, and myself explaining that he needs to be able to have access to water at all times, and due to his condition he may not have much warning that he needs to go to the toilet, and it tends to leak out of him fairly quickly.

His bottom was red raw, and little sores have appeared at the top of his bum crack due to being made to sit in his own mess all day. He is quite upset, and doesn't want to go back to school because he thinks it will happen again.

Im planning on approaching the school head about this on Monday, but i am at a loss at how to do so? The head's default reaction to anything where the parent isn't there to witness the incident is that the child may be lying. I want to go prepared and not get to angry, which at the moment i'm struggling with. I just cant believe that they have treated this issue with no sensitivity and ignore my sons pleas for the toilet.

Any idea's how i can get them to listen and ensure this doesn't happen again would be greatly appreciated.

OP posts:
TaliZorah · 13/12/2015 18:15

Boney maybe people don't feel as stupid once someone has asked. Maybe they've just realised they needed it. Maybe they didn't want it before. Maybe they ARE messing about.

The point is you don't know.

mincepiesforbreakfast · 13/12/2015 18:19

Maybe maybe and maybe but one thing we can all agree on is that some form of system for the loo is needed.

TaliZorah · 13/12/2015 18:21

Why not just make them catch up on any work they miss? Simple

BoneyBackJefferson · 13/12/2015 18:23

Tali

That is why you put systems in place, whether its a card/signal for those with bowel problems, making the time up, or whatever.

mincepiesforbreakfast · 13/12/2015 18:23

Well, if you teach secondary and you have them p1 and they want to go to the loo, then missed work would presumably be at break which is often after p2.

Or if you have them last lesson they may need to go to catch a bus. I'm not an organised person and could never keep track of dozens of children needing to come back to me to catch up on missed work.

BoneyBackJefferson · 13/12/2015 18:26

TaliZorah
"Why not just make them catch up on any work they miss? Simple"

So that would be break or lunchtime?
When do you think that teachers go to the toilet?

SuburbanRhonda · 13/12/2015 18:26

I'll interested to hear what the OP finds out tomorrow.

I would be extremely surprised if the outcome was that the teacher deliberately let the child sit in his own poo for several hours just because she could. Not because she is a teacher, but because she is a human being and it's just not in people's nature to deliberately allow a child to suffer.

But then I've walked into a classroom when a child has soiled themselves and the smell is enough to make you gag. So even if he didn't ask to go, how someone could not have noticed is a mystery.

mincepiesforbreakfast · 13/12/2015 18:27

Depends on your sense of smell and how smelly the poo was. I once shit myself by mistake (obviously!) when I was teaching and no one noticed!

TaliZorah · 13/12/2015 18:31

I meant at home. They can easily catch up 5 minutes.

BoneyBackJefferson · 13/12/2015 18:32

I meant at home.

I actually LOLed at that

mincepiesforbreakfast · 13/12/2015 18:32

Involving taking a book home, losing it, replacing it ...

TaliZorah · 13/12/2015 18:32

Why? Plenty of work is done at home. If 5 minutes is really so important (which o doubt) they can catch up at home.

TaliZorah · 13/12/2015 18:33

Do your pupils not have their own textbooks?

mincepiesforbreakfast · 13/12/2015 18:33

No, they really can't!

mincepiesforbreakfast · 13/12/2015 18:33

No! Textbooks went out with the Ark!

TaliZorah · 13/12/2015 18:33

Yes they can. I hate to break it to you but 5 minutes if your lesson really isn't so crucial.

TaliZorah · 13/12/2015 18:34

Still had them where I used to work Confused literally a year ago!

mincepiesforbreakfast · 13/12/2015 18:35

I agree but it doesn't mean children can walk in and out as they so choose!

BoGrainger · 13/12/2015 18:35

So speaketh the oracle...

TaliZorah · 13/12/2015 18:36

No but the toilet is different. Yes some people will abuse it but it's not fair to everyone else to stop everyone using the toilet.

mincepiesforbreakfast · 13/12/2015 18:36

We're not but asking it doesn't happen in teaching or explanations.

BoGrainger · 13/12/2015 18:36

Lol not you mince! I agree with every word you've said

Kr1stina · 13/12/2015 20:06

Tali - you are very knowledgable about teaching in primary schools given that you only have one child of 4 months and you haven't completed your own education yet.

Same as breast feeding and fashion . You are quite the polymath

TaliZorah · 13/12/2015 20:06

Kr1stina I used to work in one, so enough if the sarcasm thanks Smile

TaliZorah · 13/12/2015 20:08

Also what the hell have I said about breastfeeding other than you shouldn't bash women who choose not to breastfeed?! If you have an issue with any comments I've made why not message me rather than write sarcastic comments on another thread

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