...to wish that 3 particular words would vanish from mumsnet forever.

[BertrandRussell]

They only ever seem to be used to diminish and try to shut down discussion. To deflect from somebody's argument without addressing it, and to try to make the other person look irrational and/or mean spirited, or to characterise their point as an overreaction, however moderately it's been been put. They are the polemical equivalent of playing the player not the ball.

The words are froth/frothing/frothers, sneer/sneery/sneering and hate/haters.

Will Nyone join me in. Moratorium?

Not all posters are quite so annoyed about one word catford.

Catford wasn't alone in disliking the term 'goady'.

catford I am out. You are scaring me now.

catford I am out. You are scaring me now

Then may I suggest that you are very easily frightened?

I think it may be the vehemence with which you are making your point Catford. It feels like it's personal.

Goady clearly is a divisive term. I think we can all agree on that.

Hmm, with regard to playing the player rather than the ball, I think that again depends on context. Some posters have a tendency to make the debate about them and then get upset when called up on it.

I've only been on here a couple of weeks (becoming quickly addicted!). I'm struggling a little with the jargon and keep having to look up some of the mumsnetisms...

However, I am finding it endlessly fascinating how you get reasonable, common sense responses on page 1 of a thread, then if you skip to the last page, all hell has broken loose and the tone has become extreme - the longer the thread, the more extreme it gets! Seems like it might have even happened here. Is this the norm?

Is this the norm?
Pretty much.

But that's mostly because at some point people have nothing new to say.
Also notice people who don't RTFT (read the fucking thread).

I think it may be the vehemence with which you are making your point Catford. It feels like it's personal.

I haven't been anymore vehement about my nominated word than plenty of other posters. I have explained and defended my point of view however - obviously unacceptable on MN.

QOD and I thought you loved me

Bambambini I've never heard the phrase "no is a one word answer" or "no is a complete answer" on any real threads, but I've seen it mentioned on multiple "things you find annoying about MN" threads, like this one. What does it really mean? What kind of context do people usually use that in?

To add to the "lazy parenting" thing I often see people complaining about "loud parenting" or whatever, basically the opposite of lazy parenting. It feels like we can't win as parents, go out anywhere in public with your children and it seems people are secretly judging you.

Quietly getting on with things while the kids are on ipads? Lazy parenting. Playing a game of I-spy to keep them amused while teaching them the names/colours/whatever of things around them? "Loud" show-off parenting apparently. Can't win!

catford,
I don't like goady either. People that fling it about a lot are usually people who like to be goady.

And for the record, like catford, I don't think I've ever been called Goady.

I think it may be the vehemence with which you are making your point Catford. It feels like it's personal.

Now who's being Goady?

Oh dear, there's me thinking I'm understanding acronyms. I better stop using HTH! I thought that was just a quick way of saying it. I must be so bloody naive if people find that offensive.

Also, I'm a little confused as to why Catford was questioned about her/his choice of disliking a word. Fine to disagree with people but to question someone in that matter (I found goading) takes all the fun out of this thread!

I don't see anything wrong with what Catford has written. Are people carrying stuff over from other threads?

fanjoforthemammories I thought about adding a disclaimer about you and then thought, nah she'll never see this

I'll punch you in the boobies instead

HTH is fine if meant genuinely.

More often that not, it's not genuine, though.

More in this context:
"You're acting like a cunt. HTH"

I always think of HTH as the MN equivalent of 'stick that in your pipe and smoke it'.

OP: "My SIL has asked me to drive her to the shops while her car is fringe repaired. I wouldn't mind but she's always late getting to me, which will then make me late for work, insists on smoking in the car and makes terrible PA comments about my driving. WIBU to tell her I'm busy that day, but what if she finds out I was lying?"

MN response: "'No' is a complete sentence"

Meaning you don't have to give a reason, you can just say no. Fine in theory But actually hugely unworkable in real life.

Haha, well it is in my pipe and I am smoking it

Think I'll be cautious and will stop using it anyway. Now that someone said it sounded patronising I think it could come across that way. Particularly when offering advice, I'm cringing at when I've done it (was intended to be nice!) oh well!

I see all QOD

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