...to wish that 3 particular words would vanish from mumsnet forever.

[BertrandRussell]

They only ever seem to be used to diminish and try to shut down discussion. To deflect from somebody's argument without addressing it, and to try to make the other person look irrational and/or mean spirited, or to characterise their point as an overreaction, however moderately it's been been put. They are the polemical equivalent of playing the player not the ball.

The words are froth/frothing/frothers, sneer/sneery/sneering and hate/haters.

Will Nyone join me in. Moratorium?

Oh right thanks Yak. I don't venture into any religion threads thankfully.

I loathe PC and PC brigade as well as professionally offended. They're usually used by people who seek justification for posting ageist /disablist /racist /homophobic shite.

I hate menz as well.

I'm not keen on , has form or step up to the plate and the phrase family time has me gritting my teeth.

Catford, the distinction is between:
a) someone who makes up an elaborate series of lies about their own life for attention/sympathy/lolz and
b) someone who starts a thread about a controversial topic purely in order to incite a fight, or who leaps onto a random thread to say eg "women wouldn't get raped if they dressed appropriately"

In general Internet terms both are trolls, but MN calls the second GFs. If you don't like "goady", how would you distinguish between the two?

I honestly don't mind any words used in the right context. Goady has kind of evolved and people use it in the wrong way now but there is no better way to describe some posts/posters.

I think some people use the biscuit/LTB /popcorn bullshit to try and fit in. I'm not sure why though as it never comes across well.

The words themselves aren't necessarily the issue, it's the overuse, the lack of context and they way they kind of creep in to become part of the ethos. Like we're evolving a new language...a shit one

I hate "meh". It comes across as so rude and dismissive.

Dislike "vile". Not the actual word itself but the way it's used. "Vile" opinions/"vile" threads, when the opinion or thread is just mildly unpleasant. Its like awesome, overused and over the top.
I dislike Daily Mail reader/swivel eyed loon/handwringing leftie/lentil weavers. It spoils otherwise interesting discussions.
I also dislike sheeple, not used much on here thank God. Another way (and not a very good one, imo), of putting others down.

I don't know what you are getting at catford

You are saying that 'goady' is not a problem because everyone on here knows exactly what it means. I am saying, in most cases, that everyone knows exactly what all the other words suggested on this thread mean too. That isn't really what the thread is about.

Goady and shouty and judgy.

Very irritatingy

Anybody who uses 'dear reader' in the context of chat forum, rather than an actual book, is self important prize twit

Livid.
Are you really? Its over the top.

So everyone knows what all the words mean. That's the main thing.

But River, if no-one serves food in your house, what do you call the process of stuff getting from the oven to the plate?

You don't "plate up" do you?

If you don't like "goady", how would you distinguish between the two?

Well, that assumes your distinctions really stand up to much examination. But it's not that I'm really bothered about. I dislike 'goady' for two reasons: first it's a silly made up word and second because it's lobbed about with the intention of dismissing another poster's contribution.

catford have you been called goady?

Goady is used to describe posts that goad others into an argument. See any thread that talks about benefits as an example.

I get the impression that you may have been accused of goading Catford.

catford have you been called goady?

Why is that relevant?

Why is that relevant?

I only asked because you seem really really annoyed by the word and wondered if it was because you had been on the receiving end?

Goady is used to describe posts that goad others into an argument.

Why not simply use the existing, and perfectly good, word 'goading'?

So we would have to say I think the poster is goading. Or is being a goading fucker?

I really don't see the angst. Goady is fine.

Fanjo

So fucking little girlie. Makes me want to punch people in the cunt

I only asked because you seem really really annoyed by the word and wondered if it was because you had been on the receiving end?

Well on that basis you could ask all the posters if they had suggested words because they had been used about them. I don't see you doing that.

I can't remember who coined the phrase Goady Fucker - was it Maryz? Anyway it just fitted a particular posting style at the time. And was funny.

So is the issue that it's not a real word rather than its use?

If we use it enough we can make it a real word. Language evolves.

Not all posters are quite so annoyed about one word catford.

I really don't see the angst. Goady is fine

The point, which I've already made twice, is that it isn't fine when its used simply to dismiss others' views out of hand. And yes, in reply to your earlier post, I would prefer the word 'goading' - I find 'goady', 'judgy', 'grabby' etc all pretty childish. I wish people would write using adult language.

Not all posters are quite so annoyed about one word catford

Are you serious?! This a thread specifically about words posters find annoying.

catford I am out. You are scaring me now.