to think Mumsnet should delete posts in which women are called cis

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I (and I imagine quite a lot of women on here) are fed up with being referred to as cis. I find the term deeply insulting.
I'm a woman and prefer to be addressed as a 'woman', not a cis woman.

I noticed MN are quick to delete posts where transgender people are called 'he' instead of 'she', because that group of people find the term insulting and MN don't want to offend.

Generally we delete posts in which people persistently refuse to refer to people by the pronoun (he/she; him/her) by which they’ve asked to be referred, out of respect for that individual’s wishes.

Please - could we have the same depth of consideration for our wishes?

Thank you.

I think it's insulting. I am not cis. I am a woman. I won't accept being described as cis.

Shutting down free speech is never the answer so YABU.

However I agree with you 100% that it's a horrid term, it's unnecessary and often used in a dismissive way.

The trans-agenda should not be pandered to. But deleting posts is not the answer.

I'm with you OP, I find it hugely insulting

I had to look it up.

It's this one?

Cis
Short for cis-gendered, meaning someone who identifies with the sex they were born as. Typically used by whiny tumblr users who complain about not being accepted for who they are and yet bash these "cis" people for being born and being okay with the sex they were born with.
'I am a female to male transgender and I hate white straight cis men'

yanbu, totally had enough of it!

Well, I don't mind being called a white woman, a British woman, a straight woman, etc etc, so it seems a bit pointless to get all worked up about cis woman. Seems like a useful term in some contexts, so I'm fine with it.

Isn't there a site stuff thread on this subject?

Yes I see it now shows how much I go on SiteStuff
I see they are addressing it, which is good .
Ah well, more traffic here.

There has been a question raised about whether or not we would delete the term “cis” when applied to posters on threads, on the grounds that some posters feel that being identified as a “ciswoman” rather than a woman is just as offensive as being addressed by the “wrong” pronoun.

We can see where these posters are coming from, so are of a mind to use the same rule of thumb when it comes to the term “cis” as we do for pronouns - i.e. we won’t necessarily delete every use of it, but if it’s applied pointedly to a poster who doesn’t identify as a ciswoman, we would delete that.

I hate CIS. Hate it.
I am NOT ok with being told my gender matches my sex.

It's like being told my prison cell suits me perfectly.

I agree op, I am a woman full stop. No other description is required or wanted.

If a person/s sees it as insulting, then it IS insulting.

No, it really isn't. You can't suddenly decide that something is insulting when, objectively speaking, it isn't, and then demand that all references to it be deleted. Language just doesn't work like that.

I have no problem with "cis", it doesn't bother me in the least.

No couldn't give a shiny one neither.

Seriously?! If true this is becoming ridiculous how many more labels do I have to endure carrying around just because I am human

Nope, I don't think they should. Because the fact people are becoming more aware of it, and the fact it is used as an insult is a good thing IMO.

Yes Grubtled but this thread shows so far many women feel differently, enough not to dismiss them. Some others are only coming across it for the first time so obviously are not insulted because they have not seen it used misused in context.

Sorry but I really do not understand this Cis. Can someone please explain it to me in Lamons terms as I'm not very quick on the uptake but its twice I've seen this word today and with the greatest respect and with out being rude. I haven't got a clue what people are on a bout

It probably doesn't help that when I read Cis, I instantly think Cyst...
If they really have to give a label it really needs to sound better...

I wouldn't like to see talk surrounding it shut down.
but at the same time, I also don't think we should accept the label .
Yes, At the moment it may appear to be just a harmless term according to some, but it's a slippery slope.
How long before this word starts creeping in and starts appearing on forms and other checklists.
If we're not careful, it becomes the norm.

So I don't think it's silly or ridiculous to question something like this.

Yeh i dont want to b made feel im privileged or blind to others suffering because my gender matches my sex. That goes without saying 99% of the time but it is endlessly discussed lately.

It is nothing like referring to non autistic people as neurotypical.

How many labels do we need to come up with nowadays? I recently got told off on Facebook for referring to myself as a woman because apparently it will offend transgender people as they may also use the term 'woman' and it doesn't differentiate myself from a transgender woman so in future I'm supposed to use 'cis woman'. I said no I won't be doing that any time soon.

YANBU. At all. I'm very much with you on this one if you don't want a label you shouldn't have to have one. I don't think anyone should label themselves really, we're all just human surely?

Sorry for long answer.

i love posted this on another thread so apologies for repetition - but here is a feminists take in cis, and her objections to it. This blog post has led to her being no-platformed and abused for being transphobic. I see nothing offensive in it.

weekwoman.wordpress.com/2014/08/01/what-does-being-cis-mean-for-a-woman/

I agree op, I am a woman not a cis woman. Woman has always been enough, why do I have to accept a new label

Have I missed something here? On which bits of MN are people routinely being called cis? I have never even heard the word until I saw it written here this evening? Have I been living in a cave or something?

PS YANBU. I am not a cis woman and don't accept the label.

what the fuck has happened to this place?