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To feel it is high time that Israel/Palestinian issue got resolved?

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SippyDippy · 12/10/2015 21:56

conflict us starting up again. I cannot bear another round of children being killed indiscriminately. The super powers would have you believe that it is all oh so very complicated. its not though is it. It is so bloody unfair how those children will keep dying if the status quo is maintained. Something needs to change.

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winnybella · 15/10/2015 16:55

Quite, Bambambini.
crystalgall, Guardian mentioned it today in line with JP's version. I will have a look at google later, but I do wonder why Israeli pov is dismissed as propaganda and not the Palestinian version? Abbas was apparently waiving the boy's photo at some conference and saying Israelis killed him. Is that ok?

Egosumquisum · 15/10/2015 17:03

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batshitlady · 15/10/2015 17:25

For evidence of America (and therefore our gov't's stance on the issue), take a look at Hilary Clinton's statement on recent events. All alarm for Israeli's but not a single, solitary word about Palestinians.

Egosumquisum · 15/10/2015 17:28

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Alisvolatpropiis · 15/10/2015 18:02

caroldecker

That really, really isn't a line of argument you want to be using.

winnybella · 15/10/2015 18:27

crystalgall the Daily Beast article does not say that the boy died.

crystalgall · 15/10/2015 18:52

Wow. It literally changed from the time
I posted to
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I just looked now. I was ready to post yes it does but thought i would check again quickly. You are right. It has been changed. When I first read it it states that the group had posted another video of the mother entering the hospital where he died.
I stand corrected.

SippyDippy · 15/10/2015 20:19

Actually crystal, the news feeds have been correcting the story today and late yesterday. there has been a lot of confusion around who stabbed who and who shot who and how. According to NBC, Netanyahu also wrongly declared that a jewish boy had died during attacks.

It is utter chaos there but I suspect it is about to get worse unfortunately. Even more misery for children.

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SippyDippy · 15/10/2015 20:22

I cannot get over the fact that israel will not return palestinian dead bodies to their families. I wonder if settlers would get the same treatment.

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Shakshuka · 15/10/2015 20:50

rubbish that netanyahu lied that the Jewish boy died. he said no such thing. It's not chaos, Abbas was clearly inciting.

Shakshuka · 15/10/2015 20:55

Sippydippy

That's very generous of you to offer to fight the Israelis to the last Palestinian child.

Perhaps if I were Palestinian I would question what violence has achieved for me and whether my life would have been better improved had my leaders not rejected the peace deals offered under Barak and Olmert

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Shakshuka · 15/10/2015 21:10

If not returning the body of a murderer prevents future attacks, I have no problem with it.

There are so many things in the world to get outraged about. What happens to the body of a murderer relally isnt one of them.

You want a funeral? Dont go out and stab to death a 78 year old man waiting at a bus stop.

Egosumquisum · 15/10/2015 21:17

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Shakshuka · 15/10/2015 21:30

Many Israelis do indeed ask that and there is much vocal criticism including many who would like to see a firmer response to the latest wave of terror. Just yesterday I was in Jerusalem and the fear is palpable.

Just like the second intifada was a catastrophe for the Palestinians, I don't see the third achieving anything either.

Egosumquisum · 15/10/2015 21:31

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Shakshuka · 15/10/2015 21:36

I don't think not returning the body will make much difference. The answer is political not military or punitive. I just don't really care. Once you go out to stab an elderly man at a bus stop, I think you abd your family lose the right to the hero's funeral you clearly expect.

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hampsterdam · 15/10/2015 21:40

What if you set a house on fire burning to death the babies inside? Are those people getting a funeral? Will their houses be demolished?

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Shakshuka · 15/10/2015 21:40

Most certainly the Palestinians have paid the higher price in this conflict.

That's why they would have far more to gain from a peace agreement such as those they rehected rather than starting a new intifada.

crystalgall · 15/10/2015 21:45

What about the 4 Arabs murdered by a 17yr old Israeli this week!? They were just innocent workers minding their own business too. What happens to him??

What about Israeli soldiers who murder defenceless children?

What about the fear of every Palestinian that they may be killed with no provocation by Israeli soldiers?

What about Palestinian children being bombed and blown to bits? I'm pretty sure they don't give a shit about 'peace' deals.

What about settlers who throw people off their land, who refuse to allow Palestinians to harvest,
Who burn babies alive?

It's just a circle
Of hate and the Israelis are not
Innocent victims cowering in fear. How many Palestinians and how many Israelis have been killed this week? Does it matter? The Palestinians believe this is their resistance. What was the 17yr olds excuse?

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