to think that there will be a revolution?

[Sillybillybonker]

Does anyone else think that people are going Corbyn crazy? Personally, I reckon that people in this country have become so accepting and demotivated by the lack of real choice in politics that they have lay politically dormant for years. Corbyn is speaking up for the poor, the sick and disabled, the mentally ill and the "hard working" people of society. Really, he is encompassing such a big sector of society whilst marginalising the super-rich. Surely, the majority are now going to step up and overthrow the Bullingdon Club PM?

Readthesmallprint, yes that's very much my view.

I mentioned I have a degree only because I know some people would say well of course you've always been in work Velvet you've got a degree/ professional qualification etc. Just making the point that for those able to work it's quite possible to have been in employment for 20years plus with or without qualifications.

I do understand illness can strike any time, likewise unemployment. I've been at risk of redundancy twice in recent years. My bf was diagnosed with cancer (touch wood he's ok now, but we don't know what the future will hold) at the start of the year. So for me, working hard while I can, earning as much as I can, ploughing all my money into my house (which because i was lucky to be able to buy at the right time is now worth a decent sum) and in the next few years buying one or two BTLs is the best way of protecting myself and my family. But if I get taxed to the hilt, if BTL is made prohibitively expensive, I can't do that.

There has been in a sense - we have just started 5 years of Tory rule (hopefully 10 years) because the people have spoken and got their will. We are lucky that this is so. It is democracy in action.

Sincerely hope it isn't ten years. I'm tired, I'd like a break, but no respite care here, the tories axed it. I went to bed at ten last night. Got up at 12 to turn dh. 1.30 to see to dh. 2.45 to see to dd and then up for the day at 6.30. This is most of my nights. I get 62 quid a week for that and no bloody help. The money was no better under Labour but at least we got weekly nurses visits and respite care.

It's not all about whether a particular government makes you richer or poorer though.

I work in the NHS and have seen it ripped to shreds by Jeremy hunt.
I hate what they've done to education and the teaching profession.
I hate the fact that there is no new affordable housing in London, it's luxury flats after luxury flats springing up in some of the poorest areas.
I hate that jobcentres are given targets to sanction people, often the most vulnerable, and that mental health finding has been cut massively (and I feel these are related).

These are just a few things I can think off the top of my head find depressing about living under Tory rule!

An armchair revolution at best.

Grazia
Only 37 of the population voted for this govt - 6 3% didn't

Is that really democracy? he first past t post system does not give a true representation or balanced view.

Vicki,
That is a higher % than elected Labour in all except the 1997 election...

Funny how the conservative beat Labour then democracy is unfair but when Labour was elected it was fair more of us 'dim' 'selfish' people voted against Labour than for them and will do again

I don't find it unfair, I just find it depressing

Vicki I will keep repeating it. 51% of the votes cast were for the Conservatives, UKIP and the NI right wing parties. Another 7% were Lib Dem votes which would have been broadly supportive of the Lib/Con coalition over Labour.

The idea that we are a left wing country foisted with a right wing government is fantasy.

Booyaka Not sure that you can lump the whole of UKIP's 13% in with the "right" though. I think it's much more complicated than that - many UKIP voters are socially conservative but harder to place on the left-right continuum on other matters. Their equivalent in France (the front national) is socially rightwing but economically to the left of the main parties.

And libdem voters, especially traditional liberals, are often very much to the left of (what's left of) the parliamentary party.

I don't think it would be easy for a Corbyn led Labour Party to win a majority - in fact I think it would require the Tories to screw up in a big way (eg an out vote in 2017 followed by the break up of the United kingdom, especially if this were combined with a downturn in China triggering a return to stagnation in Europe). But I don't think it's as impossible as some people think based on simplistic right-left analysis.

dawndonna the tories didn't axe it. May I recommend a riveting night time read that is the new care act implemented this year?

I think people need to review what decisions are made on a national level and what are made at a local level (such as local government spending) and then check who runs your council

Also nursing is a healthcare need so you should be pursuing continuing healthcare funding if you feel he needs nursing not carers

It's a tory council. I will, when I'm not exhausted have another look at the care act. And I'm afraid the Tories at County Council level did axe my respite care.

I'm wondering how many Tory supporters work in the public sector? I really can't believe that people want to live in a country with virtually no public services; because from what I see, that is what is happening. Public services are being decimated. I earn an above average wage but I'd rather pay more tax than live in a country without an NHS, street-lighting, and libraries.