to think that there will be a revolution?

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Does anyone else think that people are going Corbyn crazy? Personally, I reckon that people in this country have become so accepting and demotivated by the lack of real choice in politics that they have lay politically dormant for years. Corbyn is speaking up for the poor, the sick and disabled, the mentally ill and the "hard working" people of society. Really, he is encompassing such a big sector of society whilst marginalising the super-rich. Surely, the majority are now going to step up and overthrow the Bullingdon Club PM?

A revolution by the champagne socialists? He needs some workable economic policies and then a national drug to make those of us over 25 forget the last Labour governments total economic tuck up.

Labour Party membership growing does in no way mean Labour is more appealing to the electorate at large. They are imploding, going to ground, trying to find a meaning after their colossal defeat but I shall never be Britain's First Lady ;-)

Hahaha! Have you seen the polls? No chance. It's very much the case of the emptiest vessel making the most noise.

Besides, most people are sensible enough to realise revolution means people dying and starving and economies being destroyed, not a load of hippies chucking flowers about.

Good point lunchpack.

isn't wanting more equality kinder?

Depends how it's achieved. I'm all for equality of opportunity, but I'm not sure that he is. My friend worked hard through school and university, rarely went out, worked his way up the job ladder and now earns a high salary and has a high standard of living. His brother (of similar intelligence) spent his school and college days messing around, getting drunk, and having a good time. Then he drifted from one low-paid job to another one. If "equality" is taking from the one in taxes and giving to the other in tax credits then I'm less sure that's what I'd like.

Yep, standing up for the vulnerable, the homeless, the poor, the self-employed, the disabled... What a loon

If he does that by bankrupting the country then yes, what a loon. I actually think that most politicians, including "tory scum" actually want to do all of the above. It's just that some of them are more aware of what's really practical than others.

Well said Brian.
I hope we don't have a revolution in the true sense if the word but I do hope that he can bring about the kind of policies which will represent the struggling people in this country. People have short memories of the mean spirited policies of the Tories and what sector of society they are interested in giving a leg up to. Another 5 years and we will all be ready for a change. Let's hope we've still got an NHS and public services to salvage by then!

We have a right wing pm and a far left opposition. Hopefully things can get centred that way.

Someone needs to apposed austerity and the cuts to the most vulnerable.

The things he seems to be 'avoiding' discussing issues where he may have trouble.

There has been no real discussion on Trident and I don't think he mentioned the deficit either.

If you want equality why on earth would you vote Labour? They abolished the student grant, bought in tuition fees, the cost of housing skyrocketed and wages fell except for the people at the top under them. They have a track record of preaching equality but actually reducing it.

But I think that Labour lead by Corbyn might be true labour, not just a slightly less right wing Tory equivalent. I remember at the time of the last election looking at how far right labour has moved since the 70s. It's quite startling. I think it was on political compass or something. The only true leftie party in the last election was greens or that loon who was on celebrity bb once. Can't recall his name, you know the one who pretended to be a cat!

George Galloway.

George Galloway

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Replying to Chairman in the post before mine. GG was the loon on CBB who pretended to be a cat. In the company of Rula Lenska, iirc.

I think most people want to be kinder, but when this impacts on them in a very real sense - when 'kind' means your children can't get into the local primary school, or 'kind' means you are taking notably home less per month, it's difficult.

Personally, I think kindness is best left to charities. Politics needs to be rather more pragmatic.

I agree with Lunchpack. He's creating a gap for the Lib Dems to become the credible and compassionate party of the centre.

If you want equality why on earth would you vote Labour? They abolished the student grant, bought in tuition fees, the cost of housing skyrocketed and wages fell except for the people at the top under them. They have a track record of preaching equality but actually reducing it.

But Jez wants to bring back the student grant; abolish tuition fees; set rent controls and have a fair wage.

Surely, the majority are now going to step up and overthrow the Bullingdon Club PM?

By far the majority of us already voted for someone other than the PM and his cronies.

There won't be a revolution. There are plenty of ignorant aspirational people in this country who think that they must put up with hardship for the some unspecified improvements due at some time in the future. People who really think that the Tories are sorting out a "mess left by Labour" even though the Tories are borrowing and spending a plenty whilst slashing money from people who can least afford it. As long as people like that keep saying "shaft us all some more, we're scum, we deserve it", it will continue.

I actually think that most politicians, including "tory scum" actually want to do all of the above

Oh, so THAT'S why the Tories introduced the bedroom tax, got rid of the EMA and maintenance grants, cut tax credits, cut women's services meaning hundreds of abused women and children are turned away from refuges A DAY, cut local govt funding so hundreds of libraries have closed, cut legal aid, got rid of the ILF... Yes, I can totally see how that's standing up for the most vulnerable, the poorest, the working families, the disabled. Silly, silly me.

YABVU, have you forgotten we live in a democracy and whether you like it or not, the current government was voted in by a clear majority. in this country we vote rather than 'overthrow' governments.

Well said SomeDizzy!

In this country we vote rather than 'overthrow' governments.

Doesn't seem to matter to some....

But Jez wants to bring back the student grant; abolish tuition fees; set rent controls and have a fair wage.

Do we know this as 'fact' though. As of yet he has dodged 'policy' talk.

He did not mention the deficit at all today. All he seems to go on about is things being 'part of the debate' not actually policy.

He isn't a one man band. He is the leader of a party. This means, that he will have to compromise over some things, unless he wants to become a dictator.

I don't think there will be an actual revolution, but it's good to see Labour possibly going back to their roots. I'm not a Labour voter, but I'd cut both hands off before I'd vote Conservative so hoping they can at least provide a strong opposition to stop the Tories' more ridiculous policies being implemented.

Over 50% of the votes cast were for the Tories & UKIP. If you count Lib Dem votes as supportive of the coalition and also the NI votes on the right then about 60% of voters voted right of centre.

If we had a revolution it would be a revolution which ignored that the majority of the country didn't support it. And thems types of revolutions tend not to work!

People are joining the Labour Party, but one can't actually leave as such. The membership is annual so while x thousand have joined since JC was elected it's impossible to know if any have or will leave really.
So there can be no statistic that says net numbers have increased.