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They're not refugees, we're being invaded

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goonthenflameme · 23/09/2015 23:22

I admit, the Syrians have got it bad. There is a war and those boys who haven't been shot by ISIL are being conscripted by the President.

But if life is that bad, why do they only want to go to Germany and if they can't go then then they'll go back to Syria.

Why are we now seeing people from Kazakstan joining the throngs?

I agree that people from Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria need help. But the thougsands and thousands of people coming through can't all be refugees in dire need of help if they are so picky as to where they will live.

They're invading Europe. And we are letting them. What's going to happen in 20 years? Will Christianity and western ways be swept under the carpet?

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Abraid2 · 24/09/2015 15:36

And if I had 2k to send ONE member of my family off to try and build a life who would it be? My eldest son of course.
It doesn't take a genius to work that out.

I'd probably send my scientifically-minded daughter with the good language skills. Especially if I wanted her to go to a western country that treated women fairly.

Scremersford · 24/09/2015 15:38

MrsDeVere And if I had 2k to send ONE member of my family off to try and build a life who would it be? My eldest son of course.
It doesn't take a genius to work that out.

I would send a daughter, so that she had a chance of living a decent life, getting an education and a job, and fulfilling her potential.

hedgehogs I can honestly say I haven't met any who actually want to stay here, the adults all want to go home, although they're resigned to the fact that will be unlikely.

That's interesting. What reasons do they give for this? Do they make use of the greater freedoms they have in Sweden, e.g. have jobs?

Lweji · 24/09/2015 15:40

I'd probably send my scientifically-minded daughter with the good language skills.

Wouldn't you worry that she could be raped, kidnapped, whatever?

Abraid2 · 24/09/2015 15:47

If most of the migrants are genuine, hard-working, decent people, why would she be at more risk than in a refugee camp?

Young women are usually regarded as less threatening and may find it easier to find refuge.

ghostyslovesheep · 24/09/2015 15:48

Scem for the purpose of wider debate I tend to use the term 'you' and 'we' and 'us' in a non specific way - I'm not directing everything I post at you x sorry if I offended I wasn't intending to

MrsDeVere · 24/09/2015 15:57

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hedgehogsdontbite · 24/09/2015 16:01

That's interesting. What reasons do they give for this? Do they make use of the greater freedoms they have in Sweden, e.g. have jobs?

Mostly it's because their families and communities have been scattered to the wind and they miss them and want it back.

Most of the people I meet don't have jobs yet as they're still learning the language. The lady who sits next to me had never been to school before coming Sweden. Most of the men I've met are well qualified but just don't have the language skills yet. In my current class there's an accountant, a maths teacher, an engineer and an interpreter. My GP is from Iraq.

Lweji · 24/09/2015 16:02

If most of the migrants are genuine, hard-working, decent people, why would she be at more risk than in a refugee camp?

Because en route they meet more than other refugees. And it's from a Muslim mother's point of view. Although it's possible that some would rather send intelligent dds than less so dss. :)

lastuseraccount123 · 24/09/2015 16:05

i'm aghast at the sexist apprentices and HR allowing it.

FFS, is this really happening in 2015.

hedgehogsdontbite · 24/09/2015 16:06

The young men are sent because they are more able to survive. Its as simple as that.

They're also less likely to survive if they stay if they're fighting age.

Lweji · 24/09/2015 16:18

I think there is a little confusion between which refugees we are talking about. The camps close to Syria are full of families. Half of the people there are children.

But the people attempting to enter Europe have a disproportionate number of males. Probably because a single person is faster and safer than an entire family.
I can move alone in ways that I can't with my son, or even with other adults that I'm supposed to keep close to.

Atenco · 24/09/2015 17:27

I'd probably send my scientifically-minded daughter with the good language skills. Especially if I wanted her to go to a western country that treated women fairly

Apart from the obvious that other people have pointed out, many Muslim countries have had female leaders of state while countries like the US and many other western countries have still not got to that point. This stereotyping is beyond bollocks

cornflowers · 24/09/2015 17:41

This stereotyping is beyond bollocks

Of course, Islamic countries are models of equality and female empowerment

thehypocritesoaf · 24/09/2015 17:42

I blame the British.

MrsDeVere · 24/09/2015 17:51

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howtorebuild · 24/09/2015 18:09

I blame the Seagulls.

suzannecaravan · 24/09/2015 21:21

i wonder how refugee's will feel about sleeping on buses?
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/24/homeless-young-people-sleeping-on-night-buses-as-housing-crisis-deepens

ginghamcricketbox · 24/09/2015 21:52

They won't have a problem on buses, just invade the local cemetary, sleep ON the graves and leave it looking like a landfill site.

Whereyourtreasureis · 24/09/2015 21:57

Agreed. Freedom of speech is okay so long as it tows the party line, obviously.

This with bells on

TheNewStatesman · 25/09/2015 03:46

"but if practised properly Sharia law treats women as equal"

hahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHA......

wannabelolly · 25/09/2015 04:22

Does it matter if they don't share our values? We have a PM who has had sex with a pigs head. Maybe our values could be shaken and stirred a little.

CatsAndCatsAndCats · 25/09/2015 05:55

tbh i dont know, nobody knows unless they are them but i do know if i was in their position, doing what they are doing i would want someone to help me.

LeaveMyWingsBehindMe · 25/09/2015 06:21

wanna out of your eight posts under this user name, six of them are about the pig. You seem to have some sort of weird pig agenda going on. TBH I'm a bit over the pig thing. Is it illegal to stick your knob in the mouth of an animal carcass to pose for a photo? I doubt it. It was a childish prank in very poor taste, but it didn't hurt anyone, least of all the pig.

On the other hand, there are parts of the world where he might be publicly executed for something that, so you think about that awhile and then decide whether our values and our freedoms need 'shaking up a little'.

noeffingidea · 25/09/2015 06:39

I like our values. Women can wear what they feel comfortable in, from a bikini to a bhurka. Gay/lesbian people can be themselves, people can practice their religion of choice, or none.
Couldn't really care less if the future prime minister stuck his penis in a piece of meat years ago.

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