Well, there we have it: Jeremy Corbyn has just been announced the next Labour Leader

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With 59% of the vote (first round).

I've just been following the live BBC broadcast and just wanted them to get on with it.

No doubt people on both sides of the political spectrum will be overjoyed with the result.

Who the fuck is going to be in the shadow cabinet?

Really? I'm very, very worried.

And yes, I voted conservative in 2015.

The way things seem to go in party politics is thus:

Lose election
Get new leader
Slag off leader (assisted by press)
Get new leader
Slag off new leader
Lose election
Get new leader (press change tune)
Realise don't want to be in opposition forever
Shut the fuck up and unite behind leader
get elected

The whole 'We need to be more like Tories to get voted' stance just pisses me off. It reminds me of Animal Farm .... Four legs good, two legs better.

And those LP members going on about it, just pain themselves as insincere followers. We'll support and pretend to believe in whatever it takes to get elected. What sort of credible opposition is that?

Likewise, those who are moaning that the Tories have 'stolen' certain Labour policies. So Labour have a good idea which they believe will make a better country. But then moan when those in power adopt that policy to... make a better country?

Surely if the policy is a good one, it's a good one, regardless of who bloody implements it! It's great to see people benefiting, but only if we're the ones who bring them that benefit .... heaven forbid they actually benefit under the Tories!

It's that sort of utter bollocks that turns me against politicians.

If you're in opposition, what better way to effect change than to have your policy 'stolen' by those in power!

I suspect he'll focus very hard on getting out the young and other typical non-voters. Which could work perfectly well as a strategy.

Not that many people actually voted Conservative, when it comes down to it - it's just that lots of non Tories don't vote.

I also wouldn't be surprised if he takes back seats in Scotland from the Nats (? what do Scots think?)

"If you're in opposition, what better way to effect change than to have your policy 'stolen' by those in power!"

Absolutely! Especially as we have 5 years of the Tories regardless.

shiningdew the tories just gave "the workers" the living wage. If labour had done that everyone would be praising them to the heavens but because it was posh Gids everyone thinks it must be a tory trap. Harriet's face when she heard that said it all.

This quote perfectly describes what happened with Corbyn;

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

Nicola sturgeon on corbyn's win
really
"In the meantime, it is clearer than ever that the only credible and united opposition to the Tories, north and south of the border, is the SNP."

Congratulations Jereemy, here's your poison chalice........now look what you coulda won"

Yeah I know Sophie :)

I voted for someone else but think I'm even more pleased that he got it!
I'm a member of both the Green Party and the Labour Party
I joined Labour after being so disappointed after the last election and realising a degree of pragmatism was maybe called for. Possibly I went too far in not going for JC when I had the chance, but anyway he's in nevertheless!
And am feeling pleased with this result
It does feel more celebratory than I think anything else would have done?

mollie to be fair I'm not sure there is a question on any subject you could ask whereupon Nics reply wouldn't be "more SNP is the only way to sort it".

I'm watching the coverage with amazement. Is there anyone in the current set of Labour MP's that will work with this chap? The radio has one after another distancing themselves and ruling themselves out of a shadow cabinet.

Their members have spoken. They clearly see no fear in a total reform. Why aren't the MPs on-side?

I thought his line about creating an Aabba tribute act was very funny.

This is worth reading - incredibly depressing and absolutely true.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11859233/The-day-the-Labour-Party-died.html

no-one will be voting out the monarchy, while he is a republican, he's said several times that its not a fight he wants because of the overwhelming public support the royal family have.

Far from being unelectable Corbyn is, IMO, the only one of the available candidates who is electable as he's the only one putting forward policies that don't lean Toryward. Now I hope he can get Steve Keen as economics advisor.

I just had a rude email about him

How rude.

Its nice to have proper opposition to the tories but when a leader has voted so many times against his own party, has triggered resignations from within and holds some ludicrously extreme views. You do have to wonder if a man stuck in a time warp is electable in the UK

Not read the whole thread so may be repeating others posts, but fwit:

I don't agree with much of Jeremy's politics, but the Labour party has been missing a 'proper socialist' for so long. At last they can say they're a decent opposition to the disgusting selfish Tories!

Linking to a Daily Torygraph article, that is critical of JC. Whodathunk it!

Odd that a 'Labour supporter' would have a Torygraph article immediately to hand, to share. Curiouser and curiouser.

As a British Jew I think I will be one of many having to seriously consider if there's a future for us in this country. If he gets Galloway involved and ends up as PM I think our days are numbered.

I voted Conservative for years, but at the last election voted Lib Dem. Next time it will be Labour for the first time in my life. I am delighted that we have a real alternative to right wing politics. The economy is healthy and now we need a bit more compassion from our Government. It looks a lot more likely now.

Some of Corbyn's policy ideas are barmy. Leave NATO???? but he will never get them so it doesnt worry me.

Delighted!! Bring it on!!

The fact that he's passionate and believes in what he says is moot.

Why anyone votes for someone whose policies they disagree with just cos he's passionate is beyond me.

1. Do you agree with all his policies? (Or the majority) pulling out of nato, dismissing trident, not getting involved in air-raids on Isis. Immigration and foreign aid, having a maximum wage cap(I don't understand how he's going to raise taxes then cap how much people are earning - seems counter productive)

1. He will be 70 at next GE - so likely has very little time left in politics to make an effective change, is worth that he would try to make changes knowing that he wouldn't be around to clear up the mess.

1. Do you think he can hold his own on the world stage? With leaders of USA, Russia etc

1. Lack of experience - I don't think he's ever even been in the cabinet has he? Big jump from consituent mp to pm

1. Dodgy alliances as mentioned above, holocaust deniers, union history of sexism (higher wages for men) just my personal opinion but j can't see him being very welcoming to women in his cabinet, IRA links etc.

1. As a Tory supporter some of his ideas are far too out there and wacky unrealistic e.g capping max wage (why? But to punish people who have either been lucky or worked hard to earn a high wage) stopping spending cuts when we have a deficit (although I know people have argue we can spend f way out of this) getting rid of tuition fees ( nice idea but I don't think we can afford it)

I'm a Tory supporter and I'm not too disappointed as I think there's only an outside chance jc would get elected in a GE. Based on the points above I think he's far too unelectable (although 5 years is a long time and stranger things can happen)