Well, there we have it: Jeremy Corbyn has just been announced the next Labour Leader

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With 59% of the vote (first round).

I've just been following the live BBC broadcast and just wanted them to get on with it.

No doubt people on both sides of the political spectrum will be overjoyed with the result.

My house is Farrow and Balled up to the eyeballs but I love JC!

More seriously, regardless of how he does in next 5 yrs it is great that in our democracy we have now a little more representation from all sides of the pro/anti austerity argument.

Whether you like or vote for him or not he will likely say something that will hugely benefit you or your children for it to be said out loud in parliament at some point. Whether it's championing women's rights, tackling the housing crisis or challenging tax avoidance it's going to do a lot of good along the way.

Plus the establishment is crapping themselves because the plebs have pulled a game changer out of nowhere - love it!

I sincerely hope all the self-serving careerists who have run away to hide in the hope that they'll be back once one of their friends takes over again spend the rest of their time in political oblivion.

There is a lot of revisionist history on this thread, and a lot of talk about people who are old enough to remember the 70s. I am 53 so plenty old enough to remember the power cuts etc - of course I don't want to go back there, but nor do I accept that the alternative is to let Starbucks et al dictate all policies. It's not an either or - we can't go back to the 70s and we won't.

A lot of ordinary folk are, however, waking up to the fact that you can be as aspirational as you like, but it won't help if you're still getting shafted by the rich and powerful establishment.

I think I'd rather go back to the 70s with JC than the 30s with the current useless shower tbh.

I don't know of anyone who has been a student since 2010 who would even consider voting Lib Dem.

Unless things have changed since I was there, there are precious few student Tories too, yet they do pretty well!

I will say it again. Jeremy Corbyn is part of the Establishment. he has never done anything other than be an MP or a London borough councillor. he is a career politician who thinks the whole world resolves around Islington and its problems. well it doesn't.

you might all be fooled into thinking he isn't part of the establishment but he is and always has been. if the labour party was so awful at representing his views that he voted against them 500 times then why has he stayed in it.

how can he expect MP's that he rubbished by voting against them for years to then suddenly want to join him in his shadow cabinet.

he hasn't so much as run a whelk stall let alone a country.

Hollybananas. this man is not a pleb. he is a champagne socialist. look up the definition of pleb - its not him is it. Look at where he has come from - hardly a problem London housing estate was it.

People have got to look beyond the hype and the rhetoric and see this man for what he is. an under qualified radical who is going to spout popularist policies but give you no idea of how to fund them. Look at Greece people. look at the latest greek government. this is Jeremy Corbyn. promise the earth and deliver a pile of shit - both brown but very different.

what I hate most in politics are liars. People that pretend to be one thing when they are in fact something else. he is no more a man of the people than Blair. they have a lot more in common than you realise.

"Look at Greece people".

Who are these Greece people??

how can he expect MPs that he rubbished by voting against them or years to then suddenly want to join him in his shadow cabinet

Well, they could join because they are bigger people
Or because they think they can mediate his greater excesses (like LDs tried with Tories)
Or because they want to ensure that their faces to become familiar to the public,as they think few people actually take enough interest in politics, and that having a familiar face is enough to garner a few extra votes

And Farron voted against the coalition.

mummymeister, the Greek leftwing government failed because teh entire power of teh EU elite bankers forced them to fail. They overrode democracy and used their financial might to bring them to heel.

Corbyn rebelled and stayed in the Labour Party because the Labour Party is his life and he believes in its real values. He refused to bow down to the Blairites and he stood for what he thought was right. He outlasted Blair and now he is the Labour leader voted in on a bigger mandate than Blair.

He will try his best to serve the people and he will give it his best shot. They will oppose him at every stage, they will snakes in his own party trying to do him down. He may fail, but he will go down fighting for working people unytil the end. If he succeeds, he may transform the country. There is lots of money in this country, but it is in the hands of relatively few. His aim is to liberate the people and give them the opportunities to actualise and educate themselves in order to improve the common good. Labour have done it before, when they were first formed. They can certainly do it again.

He is not establishment, they can't buy him, they can't sway him with honours and titles, because all he cares about is the people on teh rallies and causes he has fought for for more than 50 years. Without dedicated people like him, we would all be screwed because there would be no one to fight for us.

He wants every community to have its own allotment.

I love him

Lineyreborn - current govt in Greece promised no austerity measures. they got voted in on this and then within weeks had to introduce them to get the bail out.

Jux - why should these other MP's behave like bigger people when Jeremy Corbyn never did. are you saying that those joining his cabinet who disagreed with him are now a bigger person than him because he wouldn't support Labour before? if so that is a fairly massive missile to the foot, isn't it?

Mediate his excesses? really? not a chance. this is Mr Arrogance personified. he doesn't know the meaning of negotiate and compromise. I have seen him albeit years ago and worked in very close contact with him. I didn't like him then. I don't like him now.

Claig I'm sorry but what you have just written is idealistic cobblers. he has already been bought - by the Unions. dedicated to self advancement through politics. too true there is lots of money in this country. and quite a lot of it in the spouses of some of his cabinet members.

he doesn't want to liberate the people. he wants to liberate SOME people.

He has no idea how he is going to pay for things other than this soak the middle class attitude.

what the hell does a man who has never had a job outside of Politics actually know about working people?

'why should these other MP's behave like bigger people when Jeremy Corbyn never did'

Because he has one of the biigest mandates ever from Labour Party members. Those MPs are public servants, they are there to support the people, not to support the Establishment. Put them all up for reselection in their constituencies and let's see what Labour members in those constituencies think of them. Andy Burnham has done a good thing by agreeing to serve. The Labour Party members have spoken and he has listened and learned and he deserves great respect for that.

Well I love him too. What a refreshing change.

I'm looking at Greece. It wasn't the anti-austerity platform of Syriza that got them into the mess, but rather the austerity measures of the preceding years. Oh, and not paying taxes.

Does that sound familiar? (hint - not that different from the policies of Shiny Dave and Gidiot)

'he has already been bought - by the Unions'

No, he believes in what the unions stand for, the unions that started the Labour Party itself. They haven't bought him and his £1.50 vests. He is not a rich "philanthropist" like Blair who charges thousands of pounds for making a speech. He speaks for free in Refugee rallies. He is not bought by money, he cares about ideas and people.

'He has no idea how he is going to pay for things other than this soak the middle class attitude. '

He won't soak the miidle class because he and McDonnell know that we are the same as the working class, we rely on the NHS like the working class, we can't pay to send our children to Eton, just like the working class. We worry about our job security just like the working class. We are all in the same boat, we aren't the super rich. We're on his side because he is on our side.

'what the hell does a man who has never had a job outside of Politics actually know about working people?'

Because he spends all his time with working people, not with luvvies and slebs and pop stars. He has worked to represent working people all his life. He can get a standing ovation just by entering a miner's club or a bingo hall or a university classroom or a school. Everyone knows he is there for us, unlike Blair and the rest of that lot of pretentious, patronising, spinning liars.

Chippenham's hardly a metropolitan haven of the rich and idle though is it?

I remain pleased he is the new leader as that will ensure 10 years of Tory rule which will do rich and poor alike very well.

You cannot run a country as Labour has tried to do and the people know that and spoke with the great Tory win.

current govt in Greece promised no austerity measures. they got voted in on this and then within weeks had to introduce them to get the bail out.

Only because the unelected Troika told them that if they didn't the promised loan wouldn't get issued and they ran the risk of defaulting on their 'debt', and if that happened they would likely have been kicked out of the Eurozone, and maybe the EU. Mind you, the IMF have said the Greek 'debt' is unsustainable as have some real economists.

The tories failed to win in 2010 and won with a tiny majority in 2015. All this after they accused Labour of trashing the economy. That does not equate to a "great Tory win"

Janet you are joking about the poor doing well under the Tories aren't you?

You cannot run a country as Labour has tried to do

Seriously - google Labour's economic record 1997 to 2010 and compare it with the Tory record 1979 to 1997 and 2010 to present. ERM, failing infrastructure, debt and deficit (Tories) and surplus, growth, repairs to schools, NHS etc (Labour). The 2008 crash may well have been much worse under the Tories, given their actual record as opposed to the revisionist lies. Don't forget the strong recovery of early 2010 stopped and went backwards under Cameron.

Mummymeister

Spot on. Everything you've said has seemed very fair and from my vantage point rather accurate.

Refreshing voice of reason amongst all the slightly sycophantic idealist waffle and fluff du jour.

Bring back the SDP. History repeats itself.