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Well, there we have it: Jeremy Corbyn has just been announced the next Labour Leader

999 replies

InTheBox · 12/09/2015 11:46

With 59% of the vote (first round).

I've just been following the live BBC broadcast and just wanted them to get on with it.

No doubt people on both sides of the political spectrum will be overjoyed with the result.

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APlaceOnTheCouch · 14/09/2015 14:55

I think the Lib Dems may benefit from the Cons being in power. As the cuts bite, the electorate will probably come to view the coalition differently. They'll think the Lib Dems were a good influence on the Cons and curbed the worst of their policies.

However, I still don't think it means the LDs will 'fill the void' mainly because there isn't a void. Labour under JC, rather than a caretaker leader, will feel more like an opposition. Plus there are the SNP, Plaid and the Greens.

autumnintheair · 14/09/2015 14:57

Student or no, she wanted to go out for dinner but against his beliefs!

Flashbangandgone · 14/09/2015 15:01

So for England, even if Labour does become a functioning opposition under Corbyn, there remains a massive void to be filled by someone. It won't be the Greens (too similar to Corbyn's Labour), UKIP (not a chance).... Damaged as the Lib Dems are, they are the only ones, unless a new SDP type party started up - so far Blairites seem too tribal to allow for this.

I'm writing like I'm a LibDem supporter here, but haven't voted for them for a while!

LaVolcan · 14/09/2015 15:12

There is definitely a void, with a good number of people for whom neither Labour nor Conservative are attractive. Greens possibly are the nearest alternative, but still seen as too much of a one issue party. There is still, believe it or not, a Liberal Party in existence, but is too small to be an effective force.

LineyReborn · 14/09/2015 15:14

I voted Labour in 1997 and 2015, and Lib Dem in between.

I now wouldn't touch the Lib Dems with a barge pole. Not after the fucking awful way they 'dealt' with Rennard and Others, the way they smugly tore up their fees 'promise', and reneged on welfare commitments to people with disabilities and their carers.

Flashbangandgone · 14/09/2015 15:23

LineyReborn

You sound like a Corbyn-type, or at least someone who'd consider supporting him... so the "void" wouldn't be one that you're in anyway.

shovetheholly · 14/09/2015 15:26

I'm glad he won, and I hope he taxes the hell out of all the Landrovers and Farrow and Ball paint of those who dislike him. Grin

LineyReborn · 14/09/2015 15:29

Flash I'm interested in Corbyn (and how the media are going to try to shape him) certainly. At least he's 'out there' about his beliefs, unlike Farron.

Flashbangandgone · 14/09/2015 16:13

Yes, but firstly, Farron would be being sensible in waiting to communicate his views and policies too vigorously until the Labour leadership had died down (it would have been drowned in the noise - in fact he may have done and I just haven't paid too much attention), and secondly Farron voted against tuition fee rises (I believe).

Thirdly, I really am not a Lib Dem despite how it may seem... I just don't think we can write them off in the current circumstances, especially if the Tories veer off to the right with the referendum looming.

Shakespearmint · 14/09/2015 16:24

Any person Blair opposes is really worth considering . JC is one of them

APlaceOnTheCouch · 14/09/2015 16:44

Not everyone with Landrovers or F&B paint dislikes him! I have the former (not the latter - looks ruefully at walls badly in need of paint) and I like him. I don't think that will make any difference to how I'm taxed. Grin

LumpySpacedPrincess · 14/09/2015 16:47

Cameron and Co sell arms to countries blacklisted by the UN as they enlist children as soldiers. This bothers me far, far more than whether a man took his wife out for lunch 30 years ago. Hmm

Fantasyland · 14/09/2015 16:56

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-creates-new-dedicated-minister-for-mental-health-in-his-shadow-cabinet-10500075.html

Corbyn is doing more good in a few days than the Tories have ever done.

Inkanta · 14/09/2015 17:01

Fantasyland - impressed!

Fantasyland · 14/09/2015 17:08

Me too Inkanta!
It's not surprising that the Tories don't have a minister for mental health.

I just need Corbyn to take on the problems of parents avoiding paying child maintenance and the effect of absent parents and I really will think that he is the real thing and changes are going to happen

Jux · 14/09/2015 17:10

Oliversmummy GrinGrinGrin

Re his son's education. I would hope that anyone with a child demonstrates holding onto principle against personal advantage. JC certainly did that. His son would have learnt a very valuable lesson about personal integrity.

BBC News channel is now saying that JC has chosen as many women as men to be in his SC.

juneau · 14/09/2015 17:14

Um ... he'd have to get into power before he can tax anyone, surely?

As for the three-day week under the Cons - sorry my comment was in regard to union power - I should've made that clear.

MerryMarigold · 14/09/2015 17:23

It's not surprising that the Tories don't have a minister for mental health.

Oooh no, then they'd have to acknowledge their own mental health issues and hastily get onto stately homes thread, where they'd probably recognise half their offspring.

GoblinLittleOwl · 14/09/2015 17:45

Wonderful. Just heard the new shadow Education minister say she found making a decision about something 'a real problem for myself.'

Garrick · 14/09/2015 18:47

At lunch today, some men of about my advanced age the next table were awfulising about how we'll be back to rationing under Corbyn (Hmm at why, and Confused at he isn't PM) so of course I took them gently to task.

On the way back, though, I thought I should run this past the fat-shamers. Sugar was the last thing to be taken out of rationing Grin

Garrick · 14/09/2015 18:48

stately homes thread, where they'd probably recognise half their offspring

Haha! Brilliant.

wasonthelist · 14/09/2015 19:04

and I hope he taxes the hell out of all the Landrovers and Farrow and Ball paint of those who dislike him

I have a Land Rover and I like him - will I get an exemption? :)

jorahmormont · 14/09/2015 19:05

I don't know of anyone who has been a student since 2010 who would even consider voting Lib Dem.

claig · 14/09/2015 19:25

Paul Mason on Channel 4 News summed it up just now

"For the first time in 80 years, the Establishment does not control the Labour Party"

This is historic. It is Oxbridge out, the dynamic duo - Corbyn and McDonnell - in. Game on!

claig · 14/09/2015 19:30

It looks like the Blairites are planning "regime change". Only this time not in Iraq and everywhere else in the world where oil is abundant, but in the heart of Islington and London where the dynamic duo reside. It is the high and mighty, the great and the bad, the elite and all their Oxbridge servants against Corbyn and the people. Game on!

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