Well, there we have it: Jeremy Corbyn has just been announced the next Labour Leader

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With 59% of the vote (first round).

I've just been following the live BBC broadcast and just wanted them to get on with it.

No doubt people on both sides of the political spectrum will be overjoyed with the result.

I'd rather have someone intelligent who has a grasp of politics and economics than someone who failed their a levels in charge of the country

Some of the most intelligent, thoughtful and rounded individuals I have ever met have had few qualifications.

I've met people with qualifications up to their eyeballs who had zero common sense and were quite frankly thick as shit.

I've met CEO's who have zero people skills and were loathed by employees. I've met people on the shop floor with plenty of vision.

JC has been in politics decades and has more experience and conviction than those careerists Osborne and Cameron combined.

It looks like with Corbyn there will be no more Mr Nice Guy dealing, no more Oxbridge handshakes, no more public school chummery, no more fakery, no more acting - now it's real and the Tories aren't sure what is coming.

"Senior Tories have no idea what Mr Cameron will face this week at Prime Minister??s Questions ?? making it almost impossible to prepare.

Government whips also fear that the daily backroom deals between the Tories and Labour that allow bills to pass through the Commons may stop.

??We simply have no idea how a Corbyn-led Labour Party will function,?? one Conservative source said. ??All channels of communication could close.??

The Tories will focus many of their attacks on Tom Watson, Labour??s new deputy leader.

They will seek to paint Mr Watson ?? and the union bosses who helped elect Mr Corbyn - as the real powerbase in the Labour Party.

Many aides to Mr Cameron were privately hoping that Andy Burnham would win the leadership contest.

The burst of jubilation in Tory circles in the wake of Mr Corbyn??s victory may be short-lived.

Mr Corbyn has already made clear that the normal rules of Opposition do not apply to him. Tackling him head-on could be more of a challenge for the Conservatives than they realise."

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11862105/David-Cameron-faces-dilemma-over-Jeremy-Corbyn-election.html

John Major, after leaving school with only O levels, he did gain additional qualifications by 'correspondence study' and some professional qualifications in banking. I don't think it's really very fair to compare the qualifications gained by someone from a much less privilidged background like John Major.

Right, so JC's background is used against him but its ok for the Bullingdon boys to be running the country.

I am so bloody delighted he was elected. I voted for him and I believe in him. He has gotten people excited about about politics. He is believable, plausible and engaging. Bring. It. On.

so you won't mind that "loads and loads" of ordinary people are cheering on JC despite his qualifications/background.

I'm (just) old enough to remember it, BMW as I noted upthread and I wholly concur with your comments.

Some of the things I'm reading about the supposed seismic shift in British politics is frankly, delusional. I don't have a doctorate in crystal-ball gazing but I think I'm on pretty safe ground in concluding that Jeremy Corbyn becoming PM is, to put it mildly, somewhat unlikely.

JC's election as Labour leader does however create endless opportunity to revel in just how far wide of the mark a chunk of LP members are in attempting to judge the real aspirations of the UK electorate.

The "aspirations" of millions of Britons are shaped by what the gutter press tell them. Why do right wingers ignore this? Politicians court Murdoch for a reason. Lets not pretend every voter in the country makes their own, informed decisions based on their own research into diverse issues.

What has confused me since the last election and all the mouthing off from the left is how one of the most deprived towns in the UK, the one who would be hardest hit by cuts, voted the furthest right and have the only ukip MP.

Reading this thread and reading social media etc you'd have thought they'd have gone the furthest left but that was Brighton wasn't it?

GFG - don't mind at allow course - but I doubt that Corbyn has anywhere the number of 'quieter' voters who voted Tory at the last election - I think you are very much mistaken if you think the population at large support Corbyn or his policies.

Right wingers have something like 75% of the press to do their bidding for them. Anyone to the left has to mobilise through marches and social media because they are not worshipping at the altar of Murdoch, Desmond, Rothmere.

What has confused me since the last election and all the mouthing off from the left is how one of the most deprived towns in the UK, the one who would be hardest hit by cuts, voted the furthest right and have the only ukip MP.

Yes and that has nothing to do with tabloid obfuscation whatsoever.

No I'd imagine it comes from living in the country's dumping ground that's done it.

'What has confused me since the last election and all the mouthing off from the left is how one of the most deprived towns in the UK, the one who would be hardest hit by cuts, voted the furthest right and have the only ukip MP. '

That is because they are 'all the same', all Oxbridge and people have lost faith in the whole lot of them. A UKIP vote was a vote of rebellion against the status quo, the system and the elites. It didn't matter if nothing came of it, it was a chance to stick it to them. But those people only recently voted UKIP, they could desert them just as quickly if they think something else is better for them.

But their MP hasn't changed. He's a tory defector.

If you think the press have no bearing on elections you are deluded. Does Rupert Murdoch spend millions of dollars of his own money buying newspapers because he likes crosswords?

Umunna has now gone. Hurray!

'But their MP hasn't changed. He's a tory defector.'

Yes and he is useless, not real UKIP, but it doesn't matter as long as he wears a UKIP lapel.

No I'd imagine it comes from living in the country's dumping ground that's done it.

You mean globalisation, the opening of borders to encourage economic migrants and a race to the bottom on wages, the stuff of right wing neo liberal dreams? Congratulations you've been seduced by the capitalist masterplan.

JC's election as Labour leader does however create endless opportunity to revel in just how far wide of the mark a chunk of LP members are in attempting to judge the real aspirations of the UK electorate

I think you mean the labour supporting electorate actually, and the way the supporters are treating those who don't agree it's not really all encompassing either.

The point I'm making is in an area of significant deprivation where the MP went to university doesn't matter. What mattered to them was having their questions answered, having an accessible MP, and having a party with policies they felt represented them.

gfg can I recommend you take your next holiday in Jaywick where I'm sure your views will go down a storm

LunchpackOfNotreDame, you're right, their background doesn't matter if they say the right thing.