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Shit, I text my Mums lover.

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HappyBeet86 · 12/09/2015 08:53

Alright I know I'm am unreasonable but I need to get this out somewhere.

Bit of background, my parents are both getting on a bit. My Dads health isn't fantastic.

Lately my Mum has been having lots of 'errands' to run at short notice, she makes plans (like meeting up with me and dd in swimming) and texts at the last minute to say something's come up. I only mention it because it has been very noticeable. My Dad confided in me that he is worried about her, she used to be relaxed and happy. She is always stressed and angry lately.

To be completely honest I was starting to worry that she might be getting early signs of dementia.

I am at their house this morning with dd. I had to go upstairs to take some washing up and mums phone started buzzing. I picked it up to carry downstairs with me and saw the first line of a text.

'Wife's gone I'm free sexy'

My stomach dropped out of my feet. And I know I shouldn't have...but I did. I looked through her phone.

She's been having an affair with a married man. The texts were...gross. Most of them were him saying he was home now so not to call.

And I didn't even think, I was so angry. I text him from mums phone.

'You dirty fuck. You have a wife right? I've stored your number. How about if you don't stop contact immediately I call you every day, day and night? Do you think your wife will start to notice?'

Awww shit I know, I know! Should not have done that. If it's some small defence I'm 7 weeks pregnant and a bag of raging hormones.

This is hard to describe but my mums always beat me other the head with morals. She's sort of acted holier than thou for fifty years, she's not shy about coming down on me or anyone else for questionable moral behaviour and I've always looked up to her.

I was so angry at him for changing my mums personality. Or is thus who she is really?

I'm an adult. It isn't any of my business. I know I fucked up.I can't tell anyone else. What do I do now?

OP posts:
FantasticButtocks · 13/09/2015 12:37

Your mum is in a major panic, as the worst thing has happened - she's been caught! And by her own dd. So she is desperate to know what else you are going to do about what you have discovered.

You know. She knows you know. Perhaps it should be left there now. You don't want to get into a situation where it becomes the norm to discuss with DM her extra-marital affairs, where you become her confidant in this matter. Because that will make you feel even worse than you already do. So, I'd just say to her that you don't want to discuss it with her again. It is not your job to help her solve this, and she's not being fair asking you what she should do now. This is for her to decide, and it's probably best you don't know the details or the outcome of what she decides to do. It is her responsibility to decide how she behaves in her marriage. Nothing you can do but take a few steps back from her for your own sake.

Bogeyface · 13/09/2015 12:40

WRT whether you know that she has truly ended it (or that he is still no contact), you cant know. I only have my fathers word for it that he is no longer involved with OW and while his behaviour would suggest that he hasnt been in contact, I cant be certain.

I had to come to peace with never really knowing and that I would have to take his word for it. I made it very clear what would happen if I found out he was at it again, that Iwould not cover for him twice and that I was only covering for him that time for my mums sake. All I can do is hope that he has learned his lesson. After that, well it really is none of my business. He dropped a bomb, I dealt with the ramifications it had on me, anything he does know is on him and as long as he doesnt involve me again, it is none of my business.

Its hard to accept that, but I have had to as the alternative is tying myself in knots trying to be the policeman in a relationship that is not mine, and that isnt good for anyone. Once the dust has settled thats when you say "Right, you life, your choices, your business, dont ever involve me in you marriage again" and step back.

Gruntfuttock · 13/09/2015 12:42

Learningtoletgo why on earth would you think that's true when everything else was a blatant lie?

Bogeyface · 13/09/2015 12:43

Sorry for typos, my tab thinks it can read my mind!

Libitina · 13/09/2015 12:45

What FantasticButtocks said.

Take care of you and yours now OP and enjoy your Cake

StillFrankie · 13/09/2015 12:48

OP, I would want to know who the MM is, I couldn't rest not knowing, after all, what if its someone you saw all the time, someone close to your family, to you?

Did anything in the messages ring any bells?

Do you know of any MM who have been having marital problems or anyone your DM seems very friendly with?

Bogeyface · 13/09/2015 12:50

still

Does it matter? He could be the man next door or Prince Charles, it is of no consequence. His marriage and his choices really are nothing to do with the OP. All she needs to focus on is the bullshit her mother is throwing at her, the man involved is irrelevant.

Scoobydoo8 · 13/09/2015 12:54

I am more the age of your DM.

Affairs happen at all ages. Possibly she had all she wanted, safe marriage, loving family and a fun bit on the side, and as far as she could see no one was getting hurt so why not?

I would keep quiet for a while. DM needs to work out what she is going to do. If her BF is offski now that it's in the open then sounds like he does not want to divorce his DW and it all might fizzle out. And up to you whether you tell other family members in the future or not.

Or they might decide to divorce their spouses and get together. So a totally different scenario.

I'd guess it'll take a few weeks to know what the final set up will be.

Though your relationship with DM will never be the same sadly.

Welshmaenad · 13/09/2015 12:56

Beer, I've been following this but not really known what to say or how to support you.

However, I have to say that you're officially my new hero, the calmness and grace you've deployed whilst dealing with something so earth shattering is amazing. Whatever else your mum may have done, she has clearly instilled something awesome in you.

Shutthatdoor · 13/09/2015 12:58

Affairs happen at all ages. Possibly she had all she wanted, safe marriage, loving family and a fun bit on the side, and as far as she could see no one was getting hurt so why not?

Apart from the OPs dad, the MM wife, the OP and her family Hmm

Gruntfuttock · 13/09/2015 12:59

"Whatever else your mum may have done, she has clearly instilled something awesome in you."

I fail to see why the OP's mother should get any credit for the OP's awesomeness. She may be like that despite her mother, or because of her father. She may just be innately awesome.

Bogeyface · 13/09/2015 13:01

No one gets hurt during the affair......its when the affair gets found out that it hurts and boy does it fucking hurt.

Not only finding out that you have been cheated on but that everything you knew to be true over that period was in fact a lie. You feel stupid, foolish, humiliated.

Thats why not.

Spartans · 13/09/2015 13:09

No one getting hurt? Wtf??
Yeah no one is getting hurt here are they? Oh hang on....

Spartans · 13/09/2015 13:11

they might decide to divorce their spouses and get together. So a totally different scenario.

Or they might let it cool off and then carry on their affair with OM wife non the wiser and op thinking its all sorted. Only to have this shit storm again when it comes out...again.

Spartans · 13/09/2015 13:14

Also I would want to know who it was. My dads EA was with my mums friend. Didn't think it could get worse, but that did make even worse.

Thankfully Dad had recently finished it before i found out (I saw the fb messages) and admitted it to mum. So when I confronted him I could also comfort mum. My dad was arsehole, but at least he didn't put me in the middle.

magoria · 13/09/2015 13:17

I think from the calm phone call and OPs mum saying it wasn't physical etc he got back in touch and her mum was/is still organising meeting him because it is not 'physical' because of his 'triple by-pass'.

MrsGentlyBenevolent · 13/09/2015 13:19

I think I understand what Bogey is trying to say. If you don't know about it, two people carrying on, it can't hurt anyone, because no one else knows. It's the (usually) inevitable fall out that causes the damage and pain, hence you wonder why anyone would risk an affair in the first place. Especially these days, with modern technology, no one has a 'private life'. Just look at the fallout of the Ashley Madison reveal. Anyone who has a dirty secret these days, knows they are just one stray message away from being caught.

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Learningtoletgo · 13/09/2015 13:33

grunt only because most lies has some sliver of truth in them to make them plausible.

I don't believe it tbh, seems to be a web of lies but you never know.

lushilaoshi · 13/09/2015 13:40

Hi Beet, I just wanted to add a voice of support here. This must be incredibly disorientating and stressful for you, and some of the posts (particularly the ones along the lines of 'you've been snooping, you're in the wrong etc.) are unhelpful to the point of being trollish. There are some truly sad, sanctimonious bitches on MN and I hope you've been able to ignore them. People in glass houses, and all that...

I think, personally, that you can only do what you feel is right at the time. Some of the advice on here is helpful and well meant, but MNers don't know you or your parents, and can only comment based on their own experiences. I have no idea what I would do in this situation, but even if I did I'm not sure it would necessarily be right for you and your family. Whatever you do, I wish you all the best and think you don't deserve to be judged.

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travellinglighter · 13/09/2015 14:24

I??m with you beet. In the heat of the moment you reacted in defence of your family. Don??t let your mum guilt you out. The words ??You??re the one who lied and cheated?? should be your stock response to any emotional blackmail.

PHANTOMnamechanger · 13/09/2015 15:28

stay strong OP (eat LOTS of carrot cake if it helps).

At some point the holiday has to come up - what are yu planning to say about that? What does your DH say?

NameChange30 · 13/09/2015 15:33

"I've had one more text begging me not to tell Dad. I just messaged back that I'd never threatened to but she needed to sort out what she was doing. And that Id appreciate that space I'd asked for now."

You're dealing with it brilliantly OP. I hope she does respect your request for space now. She is terrified and rightly so, but she can stew in her own guilt for a while and leave you alone.

Italiangreyhound · 13/09/2015 15:49

NotSoHappyBeet, I'm really sorry, when I posted this morning I had not read the 19 pages of message. I thought I had read the whole thread and I think I thought it said 19 messages (it said 19 pages!) so I read the first page and thought I had the whole story. Very sorry, that is why my message may seem rather odd.

Anyway, I am trying to read all your messages and catch up on the thread.

Italiangreyhound · 13/09/2015 16:18

NotSoHappyBeet I have spent much of today looking through the messages, once I realised my mistake (above!). Again apologies for not reading all the messages, I have now tried to read all the ones from you.

You said your mum had said "Of course she loves my Dad, she just isn't IN love with him. (I told her I'd heard that line in most cheesey movies but she still insists it's true)" I think (IMHO) you should give your mum the benefit of the doubt in terms of the love she does, or doesn't feel, for your dad.

I mean you just don't know. Of course having an affair is a very cruel and awful thing to do to anyone. But I am guessing (and I have not had an affair so I don't know) but I am guessing someone who is having an affair just tries to put their spouse out of their mind and is consumed by the affair. That sounds awful, I know, but it doesn't mean that they do not love their spouse.

It sounds very sad she is not able to be truthful with you about the OM's wife and her extra marital affair, but she is presumably trying some damage limitation, although this is stupid it is, to me, understandable.

I can totally understand about her being mortified about you telling your other half but I also understand that you needed support.

I do think it is very positive when you say "She asked me then what SHE should do."

I said if she cared anything about my father at all then she should call everything off with OM (if that's even up to her anymore, still no contact apparently)

OR if she really didn't want to be with my father then she should tell him that and go from there, not about the cheating but how she feels."

I felt very sad by your advice to your mum, I can see you think this is for the best and that he is being "treated like a fool" but I don't think he is and if your mum is his main/only carer I am not sure what would happen to your dad if she did leave him. Indeed I personally think leaving him in these circumstances would be worse than staying and continuing the affair. not that affairs are good, but it is the lesser or two evils in my mind. And I am not simply supporting her because she is the woman, I would feel the same if your mum was ill and your dad had had the affair.

You said Finished up by telling her I'd lost most of my respect for her over the last 24 hours, that to honest I'm not sure where our relationship goes from here but I want some space away from her for a while. That is of course your prerogative but please do try and put yourself in your mum's shoes for one minute... she has a very ill husband, I have no idea what the reality of their relationship is but for whatever reason she has had an affair and now her daughter has found out and the whole thing is mortifying for her.

Of course you are drained by all this, please look after yourself.

Please, please do try and see your mum's side of this a little. You said She said I should remember she loves me. I am sure she does. Please do not allow this to destroy you and your mum's relationship, and I would personally let your mum work this one out, if you can bear to. I am saying this because I think this will be best for all of all - for your mum, your dad, and you.

We may love our parents, we may expect to look up to them and when they let us down, badly, it must be an appalling shock. But there are much, much worse things that parents do to their kids and for your own sanity and health I would try and see outside of this and see the bigger picture if you are able to.

There is lots of advice on here and maybe lot of people saying things that will help you and make you feel better in the short term (justified in your actions and in your anger) but in the long run this is not an insurmountable problem, IMHO. But you do need to step back and allow your mum to deal with this. I think if your dad does find out, and finds out you know, then I think you can say in all honesty you did what you though was for the best in a very difficult situation. If you force a confrontation, you may not be able to say that.

Castrovalva (up thread) had some very wise words.