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I'd like to know who the moderators are.

Bumbley, there is a HUGE difference between gang mentality and lots of people having the same opinion and expressing it in various ways.

Bollocks bumblymummy - it's just people agreeing the 20sm is an aggressive barely literate twat with an axe to grind and a persecution complex. To be in a gang and to bully, you need to work together to hound someone. I don't even think I've come across most of the other posters on this thread before now (except for you).

Maud - She may very well be being an arse but people aren't just stopping at 'you're being an arse' and moving on.

Also, if I went on a popular tennis forum and said "Tennis is evil! You are all fuckers for using so much rubber in everything. It's cruel!"

I should really expect a largely unwelcome response.

Well her arseyness didn't exactly stop either.

It's been going on for years apparently.

oddfodd, I don't think you need to know people in advance in order for you to gang up/bully someone.

I'll leave you all to it. I don't like this sort of thing. Horrible to watch and not nice to be on the other side of (as I am only too aware)

Why should people stop there? She didn't stop and move on, oh, three years ago, did she? She launched an 18 month 'investigation' into MN and then posted gloatingly about the hacking/swatting.

Now it turns out she has well-established form for this sort of persecution mania, coupled with a high degree of narcissism. Not to mention the risible self-aggrandisement on her semi-literate blog.

How so, bumbley? From where I'm sitting, it looks like 20smtng is so self-righteous, unreasonable, and bizarrely rooted in some ancient grudge that she has managed to unite people on this thread in a rare case of near-perfect agreement. This is not because we are ganging up on her but because she is so clearly and utterly unreasonable.

It is a bit rich to say people here are being mean to her, btw. Let's not lose sight of the fact that this is the... uh... person publicly sympathising with the criminal who stole personal data from thousands of MNers & sent armed men to Princess's home.

Cheerio so. You just came on this thread to have one of your regular thinly-veiled digs anyway.

I am sick to death with this whole bullying crap.

Clearly some people have no idea what it actually is.

Grow up, own your shit and stop complaining when people call you out on it. It's your fucking shit.

Sorry about my late post bloody phone.... i feel like i have Turned up to a Party late :/

I'm confused now.

Because from reading 20s posts, it sounds like there is no love lost for Mumsnet, and she sounds like she thinks mumsnet dislike her too. So why was she attending events on Mumsnet's behalf? Why represent a site that you disagree so strongly with?

As Grace Dent once said to me (funnily enough at an Oxfam event I attended on behalf of Mumsnet), the Am I Being Unreasonable (aibu) Threads do nothing but show how genuinely nasty women can be to each other

I've been on Mumsnet, and various other fora for a few years now, and one thing I've learned. There are people who seek harmony, people who prefer discord, and there are people who actively court controversy and drama.

I now make it a point not to get involved with the latter type of person, and to walk away from these discussions. The ever increasing ripples of indignation and outrage, the accusations, blogs, tweets ... it is just wearying.

20something - my advice to you is to take a step back, and assess how your actions are affecting yourself and others. I really don't think it is good for anyone to be in a constant state of indignation, and to hold a grudge against complete strangers on the internet for so long.

*I am sick to death with this whole bullying crap.

Clearly some people have no idea what it actually is.*

^Yep.
Some people are so lacking in self-awareness and capacity for reflection that they simply cannot cope with the idea that they might be wrong. So everyone that points this out to them becomes, in their mind, a bully. When, in fact, is is highly unlikely to be the case that every single person on a thread is a bully and you are alone in your righteousness.

It is simply the case that there is robust debate here. It's one of the things I like about this site. I would rather people challenge me if I am being unreasonable, and I am happy to change my point of view about something if someone offers a better-reasoned one. As I said above, I did have one poster behave nastily when I joined the site. But if everyone was telling me I was wrong, I would have to think to myself that, well, maybe I was.

The blog post was clearly nasty provocative click-bait designed to capitalise on the hacking and swatting attacks. We have probably played right into her hands by responding to it. But respond we did, and that is not the same as bullying.

This is a very good thing to remember -

Grow up, own your shit and stop complaining when people call you out on it. It's your fucking shit

"I never knew blogging was such a hotbed of fury and indignation at other bloggers."

Not all blogging, but there is a section that thrives on it. They tend to be bloggers who blog about blogging, and other blogs; they critique each others' posts and then gripe about the critiquing. It's a bit of a circle jerk.

Bloggers who don't do this view them as the kind of bloggers who give the rest of the blogosphere a bad name.

It was interesting to read the links Red posted.
There used to be a similar blogger around five or six years ago. She also wanted to be a professional writer but killed her chances by pissing off everyone she came into contact with. If 20 is still reading I'll happily PM her that blogger's name; she can Google it. It's a bit of a horror story.

Don't be that blogger, 20!

I don't want to call you Jeffery so I will call you Mummy.

Mummy I could kiss your post.

JeffreysMum - great post

All this stuff reminds me of year 8 girls. Oh, the angst.

I've read many of 20's posts (in both guises) and so many of her posts are humorless and/or argumentative or combative. I find with Mumsnet, as with life, your attitude to other people is reflected back at you.

HumoUrless

I've wasted time spent the time reading all of 20's previous posts.

I can see why it all happened, despite all the deleted posts.

Ah well. Some people just like to hold a grudge.