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AIBU to report family member for benefit fraud?

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YUDOTHIS · 06/08/2015 08:18

I have a family member who openly (to family) commits benefit fraud. she has one child, who is between 1 and 2 (trying not to out self here). She claims income support and child benefit, housing benefit etc as a single mother, however her partner lives with her (but "legally" lives with and pays tax etc from his mums house) I know that including benefits they have an income of 5k every month. I can't say which is benefits and which is her partners income as i've never asked but I know benefits are low and probably wouldn't top 1.5k max a month including housing benefit.
It really does bother me, as she is quite happy to rub it in my face, she is college qualified and has applied for jobs over the last 7-8 months or so, but has turned down 9 jobs because "I want to be able to afford my monthly boohoo shop and until I can do that in a job I'm staying on benefits" it really does irk me as I know she does not need this income and its wrong while thousands are being sanctioned every week and not having money to live on and she's laughing all the way, I've had to claim benefits myself and I feel people like her just keep the stigma going! I really really want to report but I don't know how many people she has told and if she has only told immediate family I worry it'll kick up a massive stink, I can't lie to save my life either!
WIBU to report her for fraud?

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Branleuse · 07/08/2015 08:57

ah its always nice to hear of family that are prepared to stab each other in the back. Nice.

LazyLohan · 07/08/2015 08:59

So what would have happened if the OP had told her she was going to report her? In all likelihood he would have temporarily moved to his mother's and they would have covered their tracks long enough to get away with it before he moves back in.

The OP has done nothing wrong, why is she the one accused of being two faced, dishonest and gutless whilst the woman committing the crime is apparently blameless? Why should she risk that this woman and her partner (who we already know don't have much respect for the law) could target and harass her?

If they get caught them it's their fault for doing it, not the OPs for reporting.

Bubblesinthesummer · 07/08/2015 09:01

ah its always nice to hear of family that are prepared to stab each other in the back. Nice

Always nice to know that people think that committing fraud is ok

Pepperonipeteczar · 07/08/2015 09:17

God that's so much money to still be claiming benefits. How does she sleep at night? I would strongly consider reporting. If I saw someone in dire straits trying to scratch a living and feed their kids I would never report but some people really take the piss

Pepperonipeteczar · 07/08/2015 09:19

But yes try to remember a lot of people struggling financially put on a front of wealth to try and appear they are better off so she might not have as much as you think because surely people aren't that money grabbing? I hope not

Branleuse · 07/08/2015 09:33

i dont think commiting fraud is ok. Far from it. That doesnt mean id shop my own flesh and blood and get them into a world of shit for it though. Its not like theyve raped or killed someone

CerealEater · 07/08/2015 09:58

Branleuse, so you'd be fine having any crime committed against you as long as it wasn't rape or murder. You'd not want the person reported or bought to justice?

Theft is theft, whether is an item from a store or money from the DWP. Benefit fraud is calculating and usually long term so the person doing it obviously has no morals so why should the person reporting it be made to feel guilty, family or not. Don't want to be reported, then don't steal. It's very simple.

TendonQueen · 07/08/2015 09:59

So if someone stole money from you, you'd shrug and say 'ah well, it's not like raping or killing someone, is it?'

Branleuse · 07/08/2015 10:17

no, but if a family member or friend did something I didnt agree with, I wouldnt shop them to the police or the government unless there was a damn good reason, like keeping the public safe, so for dangerous crimes against a person or people, sure. But it would make no real odds to me, nor you, nor the government, whether a member of the general public had her boyfriend staying with her 3 nights a week, or 7. I do not feel like its my responsibility to police my family and friends for the imagined benefit of the wider states financial purse, when its such a tiny tiny fraction of a percentage of an amount in the grand scheme of things, and especially with tax avoidance and sell off of public services and distrubution of public funds more and more towards the rich away from the poor anyway.
Its such a low concern of public spending, that is blown way out of proportion in the media that people will now shop their own families. You will not benefit. I will not benefit. The government will not benefit, and your sister/cousin/daughter/aunt will now be in the shit.
Its her own stupidity really, as someone would have done it if shes so blasé, but im just really surprised when its someone close.
Theres several people in my family who I dont like, our points of views or our morals and politics dont match, so I dont socialise with them, and I avoid. I cant imagine in a million years trying to fuck them over though. Who wins?

Loafliner · 07/08/2015 11:50

If a family member or friend stole from me, I wouldn't go to the police either, I'd sort it out myself - not in a Mitchell Brothers type way!

groupon44 · 07/08/2015 11:59

Just report her already!

LuisSuarezTeeth · 07/08/2015 12:08

I think you've done the right thing reporting but you should also be prepared to tell her. If you're reporting her from a moral stance, it rather diminishes it if you then pretend it wasn't you.

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