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To let DS aged 16 go away for 3 nights with 7 of his friends?

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Georgethesecond · 18/07/2015 17:19

He wants to get the train to a city in the UK that is far from ours. Maybe three hours drive. It is a mixed group of girls and boys and they have all finished their GCSEs this summer. They will stay in a flat owned by the parents of one of the kids, and the mum will stay with friends nearby - so she will be in the same city but not on the same premises. I don't know exactly how far away she will be, basically she cannot supervise them but she can bail them out if she is called to do so. I don't know her and have only met her once. She will drive half the kids down there, the others will get the train and the travel costs will apparently be shared equally among the kids. (I expect she will pay for the petrol!) DS has enough in his bank account to cover the train and also his food and so on.

None of them has fake ID and I do not think they stand any chance of buying alcohol. Obviously this does not mean that they won't take any with them. I won't give DS any to take. I don't think any of them has ever taken drugs or has any interest in them. I know I can't know this for sure. They are all conscientious high achievers heading for university. They do drink alcohol but obviously are inexperienced as they are so young. I have spoken to DS about drinking, about what too much alcohol looks like, about what to do if someone drinks too much and how you can tell that they have.

DS is talking to me about it and understands that he needs to have a proper plan and why I might have reservations about the trip. He has researched the train fares and I think he would keep in touch by text if he went. He is reasonably practical and used to getting trains around our local area. He is a sensible boy who has never given me cause to doubt him and has never lied to me to my knowledge.

I am leaning towards letting him go. Am I mad? What do I need to talk to him about if I do let him go?

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attheendoftheday · 19/07/2015 16:19

I would let them go, 16 is hardly a young child. I spend a month backpacking in Malaysia at that age and came to no harm. It sounds line the risks are pretty low.

But I think that they will find a way to get some booze!

somerandomperson · 19/07/2015 16:23

OP you sound like a great parent and your son sounds lovely Smile

I don't have kids so may not be the best judge but I would let him go. Yes it's possible that something will go horrendously wrong, but in the vast vast majority of cases it won't, and anyway that 'something' could just as easily happen at home on a night out. And even if there is a problem, it's more likely to be something fixable that'll teach him a lesson for the future than something there's no going back from.

My parents tried in vain to get me to do something like this when I was 16, but I was far too boring sensible... I think they were secretly slightly relieved when I got to university and became a bit of a rebel after all Grin

Whoever it was that said about teenagers' brains maturing a lot between 16-18, you clearly haven't met some of the people I started university with! If showing off loudly in the canteen queue about how they did so many quad vods the night before that they threw up in a taxi and it was hilAAAArious was them after maturing, I dread to think what they were like before Hmm Of course I have no way of knowing for sure whether they were the ones who'd been allowed a bit of freedom to experiment or the ones who were so unused to independence that they still thought the ability to down several shots made them someone that everyone in shouting distance was just dying to hear about, but I could make an educated guess.

Goshthatsspicy · 19/07/2015 17:16

My son is 16 too. Last week he rode his moped 2 hrs away, to stay in a house belonging to a friends parents.
He is very adventurous, and has previously proved that he is sensible.
This has been a gradual build up, he started staying out all night since he was 15. I send him in a message the following morning, and he let's me know when he will be home.
Interesting thread.
I'd let him go op Flowers

Goshthatsspicy · 19/07/2015 17:17

Sorry, he stayed for 3 days.

Adarajames · 20/07/2015 02:25

He sounds a lovely young man, I'd certainly let him go if he were mine. We went youth hostelling for a week at that age, 3 of us around the Welsh borders for a week, worst thing that happened was getting soaked when wading through edges of river as the path was so overgrown! We lived dangerously back then Grin

kirbymagicyarn · 20/07/2015 06:34

I definitely would be letting mine at 16. It is highly likely they will be moving out soon after that age or going travelling.

MadamArcatiAgain · 21/07/2015 21:15

It is highly likely they will be moving out soon after that age
How many under 18s move out these days? Too young to enter into a rental contract and too poor too.

kua · 22/07/2015 00:00

Madam Good point.

I have to admit at having a chuckle while looking at various posts across the boards. Asking the same questions but getting totally different answers.

kua · 22/07/2015 00:13

I have to ask is there anyone's child ( in this thread) planning on staying in future education?

larant · 22/07/2015 00:19

Many 16 year olds still leave home at 16 because staying at home is so awful for them. Not all families are nice places to be

kua · 22/07/2015 00:38

LARANT You are absolutely right, what's your thoughts?

Getthewonderwebout · 22/07/2015 00:49

What's the relevance of that question please kua?

kua · 22/07/2015 01:17

Does it matter..?

Getthewonderwebout · 22/07/2015 01:22

Well of course it matters. It mattered to you enough to ask the question. I'm just wondering about your train of thought.

kua · 22/07/2015 01:43

Well , here's my tuppence. As a parent to a teenager.. I have checked the scenario well tis interesting....

That said...

kua · 22/07/2015 01:45

Dam someone link or for me

nooka · 22/07/2015 02:06

I'd be happy for my son (also 16) to do this, although I'd be a bit surprised if he asked as he is more of an online socialising person.

I'd probably be slightly more reticent with dd (coming up 15) as she recently went camping with a mixed sex group of friends (parents nearby, but not in the same area of the campsite) and one of the boys sexually assaulted one of the girls. If she was just going with her two best friends I would be totally OK with it.

textfan · 22/07/2015 03:01

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Georgethesecond · 22/07/2015 07:42

Kua I did say in the OP that "they are all conscientious high achievers heading for university." They will all be at sixth form together in September. DS may very well get all A* in his GCSEs this summer. But even bright kids can do dumb things!

Textfan thank you for the links.

DS is currently away from home with family. He is using the opportunity to demonstrate his ability to keep in touch with me morning and evening. Bless him.

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DragonRojo · 22/07/2015 08:39

I would let him. When I was 16, the father of a friend of mine has a flat in the city, which he let us use. We often did, 5 or 6 of us, boys and girls. It was fun and we were reasonably responsible. They have to learn to be alone at some point

HoldMeCloserTonyDanza · 22/07/2015 08:39

He has told me he thinks they will have a few drinks one night as it is someone's birthday.

I completely believe everything you've said about him being lovely, sensible, and ambitious. But I have to be honest, this is pinging my bullshit meter so hard. He actually told you straightfaced that he thinks the drinking will be "a few drinks on someone's birthday". Come on! They are going on a three day bender. I'm sorry, but they are. And the fact he's trying to say all they'll have is a couple of drinks in three days is very worrying because I don't think he's as honest as you think he is then. Even if he isn't planning on going on a bender, there is going to be enough drink for that.

Personally I think three days is too long, and three hours away is too far and I think a massive party in a flat is obnoxious. I also think that, as a previous poster said, physiologically 16 year olds brains, however sensible, do not work the same way as 18/19 year olds (or ancient brains like ours!).

I also don't really see the relevance of the fact he can legally make destructive, life-altering, stupid decisions like get married, have a child, drop out of education, join the army, or leave home. All of those things would make his life drastically worse than his present plan of succeeding in education. The fact he technically could make a foolish decision, doesn't mean he should. Which I guess is the same for this trip.

Goshthatsspicy · 22/07/2015 11:30

Hold, with all due respect - l'm not sure your post is really that helpful.
Most of the time, parents of teens have very little to go on. We have to trust that what they are saying is true. There is very little choice. The main thing to keep open, is communication.

Are there really parents of 16 year olds who prevent them, or try to stop them?

Goshthatsspicy · 22/07/2015 11:31

*from going out/away?

HoldMeCloserTonyDanza · 22/07/2015 12:06

I think that there are a lot of 16 year olds whose parents are in charge of them, yes.

I think there are pretty big cultural differences at play, and I'm not British (but married to one and living here a long time, since I was a teenager), but yes in some cultures 16 year olds are basically adults who drink and have sex and consider marriage and leaving home and leaving education, and in others they are children who will be in the family home studying and under parental control/influence (depending on age and attitude) for some years to come.

I can't really relate to people saying "oh when I was 16 I was married to someone twenty years older and had a kid and a mortgage" because literally nobody I knew growing up lived like that. When I was 16 we were obsessed with going on dates that ended with being picked up by our dads at 11pm and getting the courses we wanted at university.

I get that many people find the notion that 16 year olds might do as their parents say bizarre, but the reverse is just as bizarre for me.

FWIW, I think my contribution is relevant as the OP says her son won't go if she says no, so he isn't entirely in charge of his own life just yet.

Goshthatsspicy · 22/07/2015 12:27

Oh, sorry hold l didn't mean to imply that your opinion wasn't relevant. I just felt it might make op worry.Smile
I think my pain point is that we have to believe what our teens tell us, as there isn't much we can do.
I spent 7 years in the states, teens there appear to be better behaved. The reality is that (in many cases) is that they are just a bit more sneaky!
Of course, there are obedient teens - like me actually. However, l think the trip op 's son wants is quite typical in this country.
My Dh is American, if my 16 year old son wants to do something, l normally run it past him first!