AIBU to want to incinerate a junior colleague

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I realise IABU BTW - RANT....

He keeps coming over to me, thinking he has found errors in something I have drafted. I have already told him 5 times that this is not the case and that he is wrong.

If he comes over again can I please use my deathray on him?

Pretty please?

CruCru my job is intermittently horribly (time) pressured and inbetween times quite leisurely. Today is a leisurely day.

Oh, and my trainee is away on a training day, so my MN'ing can proceed unremarked.

Crucru we live overseas, its not 9am yet here. Besides, I am currently a SAHM/ranch owner and manager, so I pick my own hours. I was a scientist prior to having DS.

Fanjo I shouted at a subordinate once. He was drunk after a business lunch and in the empty building, just he and I there, he put his hands up my skirt and tried to grope me. It was horrible and I don't think for a second that I shouldn't have shouted at him.

Fair point CruCru

I don't do that any more.The combination of the high-pressure environments and dealing with special snowflakes, particularly young male ones out to prove a point, resulted in me deciding to take a more peaceful path.

I still don't regret how I dealt with them though. The idea of being in an work environment when you can't quickly and sometimes abrasively tell people what to do, or that you'd be irreparably damaged if someone did that to you, depresses me.

And I am on a very boring conference call which has a small segment half way down the agenda that I need to contribute to.
I also started work at 6am.
This all counts towards my hypothetical lunchbreak

You can tell a lot about a person by how they treat their subordinates IMO. And how they treat wait staff, retail workers, customer service people, etc. I'd not date a man who swore at a waiter out of frustration and/or impatience. Those of you who think it's alright to swear at people in work because they're annoying need either to be demoted or need management training.

I have offered my allotment to bury the body in

That's very generous of you. Where I've worked most people resorted to buttons or obsolete currency in the collections of uselesss and hated colleagues.

Am I the only one who thinks that people who are too busy to speak and deal with junior staff politely are undermining their credibility by having time to keep posting on here?

Sorry, I was being (sort of) light hearted.

You could defenestrate him. That word has always tickled me. I snapped at our office junior and made her cry once. Not proud of it but she was useless at taking phone messages and had neglected to tell me about an important call on a file I was covering for my head of department.

I have offered my allotment to bury the body in

We put them in the car park. Closer.

The ones that really annoy me are the ones that keep asking for an explanation, then don't understand the explanation and seem to think that because they don't understand the problem it means the problem isn't real and I should just go ahead and do whatever they're asking for. And then two days later ask me to explain it again. I used to lose hours like that.

Sometimes a little bit of snappiness is worthwhile. I remember when I was quite junior I was involved in a project that needed a couple of 60 hour weeks (mostly due to the procrastination of the project manager). Towards the end of the second week I happened to walk past the desk of one of the directors, not directly involved in the project but knew it was happening and being a nightmare, and he said "Are you going to the kitchen Bitter, I'd love a cup of tea". I may have got a bit loud and told him that I would be bound to have a few minutes to spare to make him tea later on, how did 11pm suit him? If he wanted one before then he should make it himself because I had actual work and an impossible deadline. Ten minutes later he had made a cup of tea for me, which was quite sweet, I didn't have the heart to tell him I drink black coffee not white tea.

Stars obviously I mean in a work related capacity not when they are sexually harassing you.

Shouting and swearing at someone about WORK who is junior to you and therefore cannot shout back is abusive.

This is separate from the OP which I have already duly answered in lighthearted manner, btw.

Personally, the way I've solved my "work place issues" is to sleep with the boss. "The boss" does exactly what I tell him, and when working with others, regularly swears at anyone present, and frequently shouts at other employees to "fucking do what I tell you - LIE DOWN!". It leads to some interesting times and the employees have yet to file a grievance. They just grin and ignore him.

For clarity, "The boss" is my DH farmer, who regularly works our farm dogs on sheep.

Can we add the office 'joker' to the incineration queue? I like a joke but screeching COFFEE AGAIN LOIS?YOU WILL BE FLYING HOME HEE HAW Every time I put the kettle on is rather grating. We work nights fgs.

"Robust" managers should beware - DH was nicknamed "Nike" for about 4 years after he was once stupid enough to say "Just Do It" to someone in his team. It's fair to say the team got him back. He learnt :o.

Is a death ray abusive?

Sorry, I was being (sort of) light hearted.

I got that CruCru

Sometimes we don't deal with situations in the way that is ideal.

Sometimes the people we deal with sorely test us.

Sometimes some of us lie or are ineffectual managers who, by giving fuckwits an easy ride, make the lives of others in the office intolerable.

Management isn't about managing the special snowflake. It's about managing the team. Sometimes that means hard decisions. You are a manager; not friend.

Experiences as a junior employee working alongside an incompetent or manipulative colleague with a manager who wants to be everyone's friend rather than manage effectively for the good of the team definitely shaped my attitude to management.

It was hell and I resolved to tackle them in order to support the majority of staff and make my own, quite difficult, job easier.

If some people think I am an abusive person that's their opinion. I continue to think I was a good manager.

As for my posting on here.... if I didn't I might be less polite in the office.

I am gong to have to have a word about his tone, its not just me.

Technically yes of course but obviously that comes under "lighthearted"

QuietTiger that made me snort my coffee out!!

DH was nicknamed "Nike" for about 4 years after he was once stupid enough to say "Just Do It" to someone in his team. It's fair to say the team got him back. He learnt

That would make me laugh at myself Hassled.

Despite being quite obviously an utter cunt I often say to DH who runs his own small business 'cut them some slack, it's not their business. It's yours'.

We're both reasonably nice people. Honestly.

Limited I have no doubt you are a generally decent person

Well I don't condone shouting but my god, some trainees can push my buttons.

I manage our European and Asian teams - we recently hired some new folks and I conducted careful interviews and have my short list to senior managemt. Who ignored it and hired four very special little snowflakes instead.

Not a whit of common sense between them but all of them talk the talk like used car salesmen and that seems to have impressed my us overlords.

I'm now kindly, patiently explaining the same things again and again and again. Having to request things that should be common sense such as if you send a request, and if you get an "I'm out office, send it to Jane instead' email, you send it to Jane, you don't ignore it...

It's killing me. I'm remaining calm and polite, but I assure you my mental death ray is working overtime.