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To be really angry with each and everyone of you who has ever moaned about being 'fat'

281 replies

Lookatwhatyouvedone · 29/06/2015 19:39

I have daughters. I've worked for years at nurturing their self esteem, reassuring them. Loving them.

Still makes feck all difference to the voices in their heads that tell them that thin and flat, or better still non-existent, is beautiful and having curves is ugly. They are a normal weight. They exercise. They eat sensibly. They aren't happy with their shape. And I think it's all your fault. All of you. Every single one of you who's ever obsessed about your thighs or your tummy or your boobs. Ever single one of you who's bought in to the lie that we can never quite be good enough, could always lose a few pounds, tone a few inches.
Look at what you've done and you still keep doing it. Fat is the demon, thin is the goddess and not a thought for the destruction done. How many threads on here asking how you can reduce yourselves. Not because you actually want to but because you think you should. But it doesn't just harm you does it? It harms all of us and our daughters and our daughters not even born. We talk about the pressure society puts on women but that's bollocks. We are society and we do it to ourselves. You don't talk about being healthy, you talk about being thin.

I am so angry, SO ANGRY, that what I say can't outweigh the damage you've all done. Tomorrow I'm sure I'll be sensible and reasonable and calm and not like this but tonight I'm bloody angry.

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DarkEvilMoon · 29/06/2015 22:09

Actually that is a lie, I want my sources to declare their sponsers/funding and be independently verifiable by multiple research. One source industry funded research can be flawed and is rarely balance.

Garlick · 29/06/2015 22:11

Sorry to hear that, Toys Flowers The trickiest part for me was filling my kitchen with more crisps & chocolate than I could possibly eat! I got the idea straight away - and it worked for me - but resisting all the shock-horror-no-I-couldn't-do-that from everyone around me was pretty hard. The OP isn't wrong; social prevalence/pressure is immense.

It's like other addictions, isn't it - recovery is for life. I started a low-carb thread last month, but had to abandon it. As soon as I began counting fats and carbs, my mental body size went awol.
I just don't diet. Ever. Can't, it's dangerous :(

Starbrite00 · 29/06/2015 22:12

I've never seen so many
.. Message deleted before...Shock

ghostyslovesheep · 29/06/2015 22:14

13? - have you not been here very long then? Grin

StayWithMe · 29/06/2015 22:19

Ghosty Grin I was one of the very, very naughty posters that got deleted. I feel thoroughly ashamed [yawn]

CainInThePunting · 29/06/2015 22:23

It also makes my bile curdle that you will post again about your problem under another username and lap up the support and sympathy you will receive from the very people you have insulted and derided tonight.
It goes so far beyond unreasonable!

Reginafalangie · 29/06/2015 22:23

Ti am surprised I was deleted my I was auto corrected so much it wasn't half as vicious as I intended Sad

Garlick · 29/06/2015 22:23

You can find that information if you want it, Dark. If the NHS has published it, there'll be a review in the BMJ providing sources and any competing interests. Further information's also available on various libraries of scientific papers. Just do some intelligent Googling, instead of relying on scare stories from agenda-driven websites :)

NeedAScarfForMyGiraffe · 29/06/2015 22:26

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YUDOTHIS · 29/06/2015 22:26

Jesus christ.
Please get your DD's some counselling or something and then enroll yourself in anger management. I fluctuate between underweight and severely overweight due to a thyroid issue, I'm 13st and 5ft 3 at the minute so overweight/just over/touching obese.
It makes me feel shit, I cry almost daily and am not above self harming, throwing up and going without food because of it. unless i stay on the ABC diet (tough and dangerous diet) full time I cannot lose weight. I have to do it for the diets usual time frame and then stick to it, adding 200 calories to each day so I don't pile it all back on. The longest time i stayed on it was for a year and that was my "Happy" weight but its very difficult. Am I not allowed to be insecure, upset or depressed about my weight? ffs OP, the world doesn't revolve around you and your DD's. its an insecure, jealous, competitive nasty world and it ain't changing anytime soon. You need to instill confidence and a good self esteem into your DD's because theres nothing else you can do.

UptheChimney · 29/06/2015 22:27

ODFOD and have some calorific Cake to take with you

StayWithMe · 29/06/2015 22:27

Ti am surprised I was deleted my I was auto corrected so much it wasn't half as vicious as I intended

Snort...hahaha....very naughty.

DarkEvilMoon · 29/06/2015 22:28

I generally do but most people don't think to. And I think that is where part of the problem comes from. People don't question what they read in newspapers/hear on the news, and the news industry is interested in big headlines and spin. Don't get me started on politicians and spin... Grin

Thing is if people don't start to question it, the industry will have no motivation to clean up their act. We accept their scare tactics and manipulation it just gets worse because it sells.

UptheChimney · 29/06/2015 22:28

I meant the OP not anyone else. Don't think I've read a more stupid unreasonable OP in all my lurking time here.

KayAdams · 29/06/2015 22:34

Hey OP - guess what. I'm fat. Im faaaaaaaaaaaaat. I actually am not pretend fat but faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat. So using your logic, it's your fault.

StayWithMe · 29/06/2015 22:37

I have two Yorkies! The 15yr old is a wee fatty bum bum and steaks any food going. The 7yr old is a skinny wee shit and nibbles his food on and off. I balm the fatty dog for the skinny dog's issues OR should I blame the skinny dog for the fatty dog's issues. It's all very confusing. Confused

StayWithMe · 29/06/2015 22:39

I also blame the wine ipad for all my spelling mistakes. Blush

rockybalboa · 29/06/2015 22:41

MNHQ: surely you should be deleting the OP for a personal attack because the way she chose to word her OP is precisely that to me, and all the other MN'ers who dare to moan about being fat. Double bloody standards.

rockybalboa · 29/06/2015 22:42

And for the record: yes, YABVU.

Garlick · 29/06/2015 22:43

I generally do but most people don't think to. And I think that is where part of the problem comes from. - Agreed!

Reginafalangie · 29/06/2015 22:45

Git is a new iPad I was fine on the old laptop with no auto correct but this thing is a ducker and I hate it Confused

WorraLiberty · 29/06/2015 22:49

What an angry opening post.

If the OP couldn't have typed it, I get the vibe that she would have smeared it on the wall with her own shit Confused

Chill out OP.

A huge part of raising children is teaching them that everyone in the world is different.

DarkEvilMoon · 29/06/2015 22:50

"rockybalboa" if you want HQ to delete something it is best to report it using the report function, as you can't guarantee that HQ will pick up a request to delete on thread. Just a general rule.

Garlick · 29/06/2015 22:52

YUDO ... My sympathies. I'm not sure whether you might find this annoying or upsetting but, since it's an important thing for me, here goes ... Have you considered just being OK at the weight you are?

If you're still reading, I also have health issues that cause weight gain, and my BMI's the same as yours. It's been stable over several years (I realise yours might fluctuate until you get your thyroid meds right) and this level of overweight isn't a health endangerment. Buying bigger clothes and some control pants can be a hell of a lot better for the self-image - and long-term health - than beating yourself up this much about it.

Have some Flowers anyway, and the best of luck with things.

lantien · 29/06/2015 22:53

It also makes my bile curdle that you will post again about your problem under another username and lap up the support and sympathy you will receive from the very people you have insulted and derided tonight.

I was thinking this - but perhaps it better the OP vents here then calmly finds way to help herself and her DDs.

It is a worry wider society - other parents labelling food as good and bad and going on about weight or very young girls coming over and being almost phonic about less than healthy options in our house.

They aren't growing up in a bubble - you can try and limit exposure avoid fashion mags and try and put stuff in age appropriate context - but well most women have some issues with body image and TBH I think it's spreading more and more to men too.

I think pretty much everyone is caught up in the trap but we didn't make it.

I have my on issues inherited form my own parents with one parent with erratic eating habits and one with serious illness caused by morbid obesity, stress eating or eating cheaply and doing without because we short of money and want the DC to eat well. I have to watch comments form IL and other family members made in passing about weight but could impact on my DC. I like most other on here do the best I can for my DC including helping them have a positive self image despite all of the above.

I'm living in an area - poor - where loads of children are even at young ages massively overweight with life long implications - an area of complex causes. There really are weight problems out there for many people round us - people who do need to make changes - unfortunately some of the ways of dealing with those means my DC get bombarded with incorrect information and concerns that aren't relevant to them giving the worries they didn't have and don't need.