Daily Mail Has gone too far (again)

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3125530/The-breeding-ground-jihadis-ice-cream-lady-wears-burka-great-textile-town-Dewsbury-undergone-terrible-transformation.html

Why is a women in a burka selling ice cream terrifying to them.

I love how people say how much they hate veils/face coverings and they should be banned and then complain that some Muslim people don't seem to want to integrate with their local community.

If when I walked down the street I noticed everyone staring at me, trying to avoid eye contact and general segregation from the wider community I'd probably want to cover my face up too.

And we wonder why people become radicalised, when even people in their own town don't want to speak to them. Or would rather wait for an ice cream rather than be served one by someone who isn't white.

Well I am 43 so not really a "younger poster" but thanks.

Yes the comment from the poster saying the ice cream van driven by the white man being the most popular was disturbing.

Some very worrying comments on here. My neighbour is a gp, white recent convert to Islam. She had recently stayed wearing the burka and the hijab. Does this scare me or prevent me from communicating with her? No. Have other neighbours been feeling the same? No. She has been treated appallingly by some neighbours. Live and let live. I believe in her right to choose to cover up just as I believe the couple at number 22 have the right to parade in thongs on particularly hot days. It's only threatening to you if you have ignorant and myopic views.

Everyone knows lovely people who wear the veil, including lovely converts.

I still find it retrogressive, in terms of what it says about women.

Retrogressive is not, of course, the same as threatening.

clean your newly convert neighbour has started wearing a burka and is a GP? Really? That could be problematic in her surgery ...

It's not ignorant to worry about integration especially the younger generation of children now wearing them. The burka and niqab say "I'm different from you, I'm not apart of this society' . A society where women are fighting every day for equal right, better support for DV and abuse, so women and children walking round completly shrouded and invisabld because of a man made diktat should not be welcomed.

I do think now the burka and niqab is a sign of political Islam.

Live and let live - absolutely. Be tolerant of other cultures and religions - absolutly but the complete shrouding of women and chikdren on the say so of political men?? Come on really?? ....

I just read the article, finally, and don't see anything contentious there, it's just a report on the changing nature of Savile Town over one lifetime. If the Guardian went to Savile Town to report on demographic changes it wouldn't be able to alter the facts - surely?

I disagree, I don't think Dewsbury town centre is "dead". It has several chain stores ( Boots, WH Smiths, Holland & Barrett, Argos, Wilko, etc), and a thriving market. Yes there are a lot of charity shops and bookies, but that is the same in lots of towns. There are even some longtime independent shops that have managed to survive the recession. The town is reasonably busy even on non-market days.

Dewsbury and neighboring Batley have a ridiculous amount of supermarkets concentrated in a very small area. Off the top of my head I can think of six between them, and there are many smaller stores as well. This has contributed to the slow decline of the town centre (it has been the same in many, many other places), but there is still life there. There is also still money in the area - plenty of people are able to afford to buy the many beautiful Victorian era houses and villas. It's actually a nice place to live, with lots of parks and green spaces.

I'm not the Kirklees Tourist Board, honestly! Just a resident.

Of course there is a high concentration of Muslim households in Savile Town...because people want to live close to their local mosque. That's hardly newsworthy. Do I feel unwelcome in that area? No.

I must admit GERTI I was quite shocked when McDonald's closed, as it always seemed so busy! Also, I suppose with the development of White Rose Centre a lot of chains preferred to move to that site instead of remaining in town.

I think that on the subject of EDL marches, that they are organised in Dewsbury because there is a large Muslim community, not due to it. It is an easy target. The marches are always heavily opposed by local residents, not to mention incredibly well policed.

I agree with you that most people here are just working and getting on with living their lives!

I lived in Egypt from age 6 to 12. I am now 40something. I never saw women fully covered when I lived there, in fact I clearly remember bring shocked when I saw one woman jump into the pool fully covered, it shocked me because it was so unusual.
I think British culture is at huge risk because of this ridiculous invasion of extreme rituals.

What people choose to wear is none of my business, and doesn't bothe me in the slightest. And tbh, I can see the attraction of a burka, I don't see it as oppressive, I see it as freeing.

Stratter5 I understand what you're saying. I live in an Islamic country in the Middle East and although I'm not Muslim, interacting with Muslim women here (some of whom where the hijab and niqab and some of whom do not) I feel I understand a huge amount more about their choices.

I think mini skirts and makeup are as much a symbol of patriarchal oppression of women as burkas are.

I think mini skirts and makeup are as much a symbol of patriarchal oppression of women as burkas are

I don't think it is. Wearing a veil makes you invisable, it takes away your identity.