Game of Thrones - I'm not watching any more

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It's just gone too far for me. A good book series is ruined for.

Where the Stannis Baratheon storyline can go from here is anyone's guess...

That's Stan The Man buggered then - I always thought he was a git.

I had a feeling the poor old daughter was doomed when the TV started building up her part - she hardly features in the books at all.

It's really no worse than I Claudius - someone's nephew got beheaded for coughing in that, I remember ... It boggled me rather as a kid!

Fromparistoberlin73. Me too. What book needs a disclaimer and the reading of which leads to adult university students leaving their courses?

I want to know what the book is too!

I can imagine certain films perhaps needing such a disclaimer, A Serbian Film, for example but can't think of a book.

Was the book American Psycho? I really couldn't read that.

I'm done. I read the books and they were alright, to a point. The series has just gone too far. Time and time again. It has devolved into gratuitous violence and sex in the name of entertainment, the storyline is virtually non existent anymore, and I don't care that you couldn't see anything, they just crossed the line.

He had to stop it as I was shaking and crying. It was really awful and I will have nightmares.

Sorry you felt that way. I must be extremely desensitised.

I felt bad but only because I loved that character but the fact that it's fiction therefore means it has little to no impact on me, especially to the point of me shaking.

Glad i wasnt the only one to spot how bad the flying away cgi was!

To be fair a hell of a lot of the budget would have gone to the battle in the previous episode which apparently took a whole month to film.

Unfortunately the show doesn't have unlimited money and CGI doesn't come cheap.

I personally just enjoy it for what it is.

UsedToBeFeckless thanks for the reminder of I Claudius! It was the Game of Throned of my youth. Very different in scope (and better written) but I love both series.

Wow, taking the piss because someone was upset by something.

As I said, I haven't followed the plot. I had no idea what was happening or why, but was very upset by a horrific scene involving a child being killed slowly at the behest of her parents. You don't even need to understand my background issues to empathise with that, surely?

BettercallSaul no suggestion of smoke in the book

There is a suggestion, that's why Gilly's baby is switched for Mance Rayder's son.

Mance also gets a burning end - well someone does who looks a lot like him.

Burn no it wasn't it was much older and French...not a book for light reading. But it was almost the kickstart to the sort of genre that includes a Serbian film, saw, hostel (although they are much lighter).

I think what happened to Shireen has been a book spoiler and that it's something that's going happen in the newest book if it ever gets released There needs to a rift between Stannis and Davos, Stannis' army needs to turn on him, and there needs to be the start of a plot against Melissandre. As distasteful as some people found the scene, as a plot device it'll be pivotal.

It's the beginning of the end for Stannis, I think this will destroy him ultimately.

Plus from the reaction of his army this could be the seed that eventually causes an uprising.

I haven't read the books, purely because I'm not that interested.

Unpleasant scene but after it was suggested a week or two ago I knew it would happen, was just waiting for it. Stannis has gone fanatical, completely off the wall, I expect many men will desert him now and Davos will spit on him. Unless something hsppens to 'justify' in their minds.

It was an unpleasant scene but no where near as bad was I expected. One of the criminal minds episodes was far far worse imo and really upset me.

I have read in several places that Martin told them to do this and that it is coming up in one of the next few books. I won't say why, but I guessed it would happen in the books based on the last one.

It was awful, but I think it was believable for Stannis given he clearly believes in his divine right to take the throne and has always had a rather black and white view of things. He has burned other people alive before, was willing to burn Gendry. The books has often taken people who have done terrible things (Jamie) and attempted to redeem them and shown others do terrible things when they believe they are right to do so (Theon).

Other episodes have also clearly explored the idea of whether it is worth sacrificing small amounts of people to save the many. Stannis needs to take Winterfell in order to protect the wall and stop the white walkers - many people after seeing Hardhome said everything else now seemed unimportant in the face of stopping them.

I hate Stannis for what he did, but then I never liked him much anyway given what he was prepared to do to his own brother. I'm just trying to say that I think what he did is in character.

Also, I was surprised that Selyse was the one who broke.

And I think sir paedo will meet arya again very very soon...

I thought The Serbian Film was some sort of euphemism, like 'The Scottish Play'

I had I google it. I'm struggling to see what could be worse than that tbh.

Mild I've only ever read the synopsis on Wikipedia for that film and it horrified me. A friend had to watch it as part of her criminology degree and I think it deeply upset everyone who saw it.

I could have died happy not knowing the film even existed!

Anybody else have to give their daughter a hug after watching that? :(

I was convinced - CONVINCED - that Davos would come in the nick of time...

I knew it was coming as soon as Stannis had told Davos to leave the area and leave Shireen with him. Was totally and .
But on the flip, this is going to be a turning point in stannis story I think. Davos won't forgive him and will turn against him and I think the majority of his army will do the same. or at least here is hoping.

Poor Shireen. She was an actual ray of sunlight, and you know something is getting too far when even her mum is crying...

But come on, Dany rode a Dragon!

That's what I think. Davos is the closest thing the series currently has to an honourable, Ned Stark-like figure, and it would be a reversal of his character not to be mortally outraged by this, espcecially given hiss own closeness Shireen (and seriously, how great was Liam Cunningham in their scenes together?).

At this stage, really the only thing Stannis has going for him is the loyalty of Davos. He'll lose that because of what he's done, and that will be the end of him.

Davos is the closest thing the series currently has to an honourable, Ned Stark-like figure Noooo, do not say that! You will jinx him!

Meanwhile, in the book:

A sacrifice will prove our faith still burns true, Sire," Clayton Suggs had told the king. And Godry the Giantslayer said, "The old gods of the north have sent this storm upon us. Only R'hllor can end it. We must give him an unbeliever."

"Half my army is made up of unbelievers," Stannis had replied. "I will have no burnings. Pray harder .

So in the book, Stannis stops his men burning some random, and leaves his daughter behind at the wall so his heir is safe.

I think the reason to stop watching GOT is that now they have gone off-piste, they are changing the characters to fit what they want to do with the plot, and it often makes no sense. Stannis burns the last of his line; Littlefinger is really, really stupid and somehow doesn't know what Ramsay is like, even though the entire north does etc.