to ask if anyone has had a psychic reading that was extremely accurate?

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One that could not be down to cold reading. For example, giving out very specific details such as exact dates, unusual names, basically precise facts that cannot be fished for or guessed and are not vague?

Yes, I gave an accurate cold reading and was 100% accurate according to the man I gave it to.

Sorry, KidLorne - cross posted with you

Maybe this would be a good time to ask if anyone has proof of psychics/mediums/whatever helping to solve something for the police? Not vague anecdotes, but actual evidence?

This has been asked many times before, but I don't think anyone's yet come up with anything ... ?

Teeththief - I'm sorry for your loss

I knew someone who had a reading and they couldn't see anything passed a certain point. Later her SIL died and she thinks that is why the psychic had a block.

I went to a show Sally put on. She said lots that applied to me but the woman next to me thought she was talking to her and kept saying no

slice if you make extraordinary claims that turn our understanding of the world upside down and flies in the face of everything we know and have proved through rigorous observation, then you need credible evidence to back it up. Otherwise it is just hot air.

No, I have never had any such experience. Some people are remarkably good at cold readings and picking up clues, but I don't happen to believe that so-called psychics or mediums actually have access to a spirit world or whatever. They might genuinely believe they have some sort of psychic gifts. Or they might be run-of-the-mill charlatans.

There has never been a single case of any paranormal power or phenomenon not proving to be easily explicable when it is properly investigated.

The only ones that remain unexplained are the ones that remain uninvestigated.

As I said- the 3 Cs- Coincidence (which happen much more often than people think) Cold reading(either conscious or unconscious) and Confirmation Bias.(which explains a lot of things in the world.

I have posted about this before, apologies if I bore anyone.

Basically, had a prediction from a fortune teller. She told me I would have twins, the sexes, the month I would feel able to tell people and that it would be a difficult pregnancy but babies would b fine n go full term.

At the time I was trying for a baby but had told her n nobody else a thing of it, all I provided when I booked was my first name n a friend's mobile number so she couldn't have researched me. Even if she had how could she get that from it?

I left the visit thinking she was a crank. Told dh n we laughed n we told my dm who then said "oh er actually there was twins in the family years ago but one died in infancy so we never talk of it" . First I'd ever known! It was my grandma who had them, my uncle had been a twin n I never knew. Still paid no heed to it until I got pregnant a few months later .....

6 weeks pg I had a bleed. Obviously devastated n believing I had lost the baby, had to go to the bleeding clinic where I was scanned n told there was not a heart beat ..... There were 2!! Dh's knees buckled, it was a mindblowing moment.

Needless to say I now have twins, the sexes predicted, I was 14 weeks n felt safe enough after the ttts scan to tell people the month she said I would, I carried them to over 37 weeks, medically this is considered full term for twins n yes my pregnancy was extremely hard n risky but they r both fit, well n amazing .

How do you explain that!?! No amount of cold reading or lucky guessing could predict something sp specific, could it????

hak nail on the head.

All the people going 'I'm a total sceptic but...' really aren't being that scepticalsceptical at all. They've observed something that they can't explain and then have immediately lept onto the most unlikely and least credible explanation ignoring the most logical explanations (the three Cs).

It is the equivalent of going to see Paul Daniels and saying 'I was a total sceptic but he actually managed to saw Debbie McGee in half without her screaming and blood and grizzle flying everywhere. In fact after he did she was absolutely finefine with no physical marks. Paul Daniels really can defy the laws of science.'

Whilst it might not be apparent how he does the trick, we don't believe he has actual magic powers. He is a skilled illusionist and so called psychics are just the same.

Silver, the prediction of children is a standard tactic. If they get a woman around the right age who is wearing a ring, making a prediction that they are going to have children is a fairly safe bet. Getting sexes right is a 50/50 chance, and seeing as a large number of women would describe their pregnancies as difficult in some way that's not a massive feat of prediction either either.

Besides, I bet the medium didn't come out with all that without you helping, especially wrt to the month of announcing the pregnancy. If you were trying, she would have picked up on that after predicting children in your future, and then it's simple maths to narrow down when you would likely be hitting a timeframe of around 12-14 weeks, which is when most people announce they are expecting. I'll also bet that she had another 10 women visit her who she predicted children for and she was utterly wrong.

What these people are good at is reading the hints people give off and manipulating you into remembering the predictions they get right and forgetting the misses.

Silverglitterpisser, did she make any more predictions or just your pregnancy?

This is my first post, I normally just browse. But threads like this make me squirm so I thought I'd say something.

Why is it predominately women that believe this utter tripe. It's a complete embarrassment. Does the whole female gender absolutely no favours.

Honestly, some of the rubbish posted. "She told me I would have 2 daughters and I did!" It's just mindboggling how anyone can take that as any kind of evidence. I half expect someone to come on and post "she told my brother he would soon be coming into money and later that day he shagged a girl called Penny!"

There are 2 types of psychics. The crooks and the deluded. I'm going to give Fakinell the benefit of the doubt and say she is deluded. After all, if she had any paranormal abilities she would have known that police forces do not relay on this nonsense. It's common knowledge that this is a myth dreamt up by tv screenwriters and authors of murder mystery fiction. But she thought it was true. So she doesn't even know what's going on in the here and now, let alone the hereafter.

As for "what harm does it do?", well it makes women look like fools. How's that for a kick off? I don't know any men who take this stuff seriously, nor do I know any men who claim to be psychic. I'm sure there are a few but vastly outnumbered by women.

To still be debating this in the 21stC is very depressing. Countless people, from James Randi to Derren Brown have exposed all this as a massive fraud time and time again, yet still people believe.

And for those of you who claim to have had accurate readings that must be genuine, ask yourself this. What is more likely. That the laws of physics and biology, and of time and space, have been overturned by some daft bint in a tent in Hull, or you have been the victim of a skilled fraudster?

I half expect someone to come on and post "she told my brother he would soon be coming into money and later that day he shagged a girl called Penny!"

Spits out tea.

I work in a very science orientated environment , I understand and respect science ,it is what every day of my job is based on and so should it be . You cannot argue with good old cold hard fact's . But in my job , science isn't able to offer all the answers that people need all the time , unless you are going to disregard the essence of who they are , what makes them , them . Spirituality is still seen as important in Nursing and long may that continue .

I had a friend who had a psychic reading and said he was completely spot on about loads of things, in detail, he couldn't possibly have known. His prediction for her future though turned out to be completely wrong despite him being absolutely certain his prediction would come true.
So he failed the acid test really didn't he? Not psychic. Just very good at reading people.

I am not about to shoo the chaplin and priest off the ward , simply because I am a non religious believer , as long as the comfort they bring to people doesn't impact on them fiscally , physically or emotionally in a negative way then more power to them . I feel very much the same way about the medium I see , £20 every 18 to 24 months is nothing fiscally to me , she makes me feel better about myself , reminds me that I am a functioning adult who can make changes for the better should I choose to . She will not see people too often , she had a man who insisted seeing her too regularly , he was grieving and she put him touch with a local bereavement service , where he has made friends and been able to move on , she basically said she couldn't stop his wife being dead and he was struggling with that fact , his wife had passed and although she was fine wherever it is she say's we go , he needed more support than she could provide .

TalkinPeace Yes I have a recording of the sitting. No video, but I've been going to psychics on and off for years and am pretty good at sitting still and remaining expressionless. This happened about 12 years ago so no social media then, or if there was I wasn't on it.

She had no info about me. When I called to make the appointment I withheld my number, just asked for an appointment and she gave me a date and time. Didn't ask anything about me.

Regarding my home, she described walking up the drive, the position of the garage, number of steps up to the front door, entering the house, described a very unusual feature in the hall, described the layout of the hall and where each room was and what is was, described building work I'd recently had done, and my workroom and what was in it.

She was telling me everything very matter-of-factly, not hesitating or 'fishing'. She was rattling it all off as though she had it all written down in front of her. Regarding the relationship with the man she knew the name of the resort where we met, his name (there was no "John - James - Joe" type of stuff, just came straight out with it). She was also accurate about how long the relationship would last.

Why is there an expectation that messages from the other side should predicate the future?

If, I was to get a reading I would expect validations that whomever was coming through knew me, comments re the future would not interest me.

Just pondering..

BTW I appreciate the manner in how Fackinell has responded to questions/ comments made. I can't say the same for a few others.

kua some of us with our critical faculties intact resent being expected to swallow something so utterly far fetched and impossible however calmly or patiently the nonsense is told.

TalkinPeace - That is why "psychics" do not allow anybody to record their readings - as it would show it up as standard cold reading.

Every psychic/medium/clairvoyant I have been to has allowed the reading to be recorded.

"Why is there an expectation that messages from the other side should predicate the future?"

I dunno, because so many claim they can and charge money for the privilege?

TTWK the poster who said 'she told me I'd have two daughters and I did!" was gently taking the piss.

fackinell you've been lovely on this thread against some pretty damn rude posts. I'm sorry for you losses.

fwiw I don't believe in psychic stuff at all though ... well we don't know everything in the world. Maybe there really is a flat world carried on the back of four elephants who are standing on a turtle, after all.

However, I think that any genuine psychic would be exceptionally unwise to make predictable and utterly reliable claims. Their life wouldn't be worth living.

uh, maybe there really -is- someone out there who can predict stuff accurately and they serve the tea at Davos ...

Kid I gave her nothing. I obviously will have given subconscious body language signals n maybe she read those but I told her absolutely nothing about my life n even said "you tell me" when she asked who George was. But even if I had told her the ins n outs of everything in my life she still made a very bold detailed n accurate prediction, something even I couldn't have known was about to happen?

I accept ur point about maybe looking at me n making an assumption I would get pregnant. But twin births r between 9 n 16 per 1000 so probability was not on her side. To then factor in the sexes makes it higher again. Then the date, it was a while in the future so she would have had to guess at one month anywhere in the future years from date of session. On top of this the relatively rare occurrence of carrying twins to term makes one incredibly specific,detailed n accurate guess...... The difficult pregnancy part was an easy one given it was multiple, I'll give u that!

Am not saying that this was anything out there but this lady absolutely predicted my dts with a remarkable level of detail. She got no clues from me, how could she? - I would not find out myself for another 6 months or so. We did not have fertility treatment or anything that might make twin chances higher and, as mentioned earlier, I did not even know at that point that twins did indeed run in the family.

I would love a believable explanation for this but I just don't accept someone could pluck such an accurate, multi layered n usual prediction out of the air.

ashtrayheart No I didn't give a false name. I phoned and asked for an appointment. She gave me some dates/times, I chose a suitable one and that was that.

I assume she put me in her diary as No. 3 or whatever number I was that day.

I can't see what you're struggling with as far as that's concerned.

East she did. Not as specific or nail on the head as my dts but she did.

She mentioned an older gentleman close to dh would become gravely ill, our pets would have major health probs, dd would start to have problems at school, specific to something that nobody at the time actually knew n we would have strange incidents in our house due to spiritual activity. Few more bits but they r too outy! She was right on all of those unfortunately as dfil n both of our dogs died within the year n dd is still dealing with some fallout about the thing that caused her problems in school. FT also told me dd is psychic, somethin I've known a long time n we definitely have... erm "presences" at home, make of that what u will.

So yeah. BUT she also told me some things that have not happened n really will not. Ok some might yet but it seems unlikely due to how long ago this was? Also, I did forget a lot, mainly because I wrote FT off as a charlatan,it was only after the twins one came true I started to try remember the others iyswim!