to ask if anyone has had a psychic reading that was extremely accurate?

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One that could not be down to cold reading. For example, giving out very specific details such as exact dates, unusual names, basically precise facts that cannot be fished for or guessed and are not vague?

Pudding, I'm not an expert on this but from what I've been heard, spirit don't agree with affecting free will. Mediums aren't fortune tellers but spirit will bring messages of comfort and warning. They won't give away much about the future although I was told by one medium that my Granddad said I will go back down a spiritual path towards the end of my life and I have a few more chapters to go through before. That's the closest I've known spirit to say about the future.

With the tarot and psychometry (reading the energy of a belonging) I can get a broader picture. It's like putting together a jigsaw puzzle, I can often tell how a path that someone is on will progress within a year or so. I couldn't tell a 16 yr old they'd have 5 kids and marry a millionaire though. Maybe some can but I definitely can not.

I'm always sure to say that we are all masters of our own destiny and just because I see someone applying for nursing college and a new partner coming on the scene does not mean she can't say bugger it and move to Australia or become a nun.

Tools of divination are a guideline and should be used as such. I put a lot of emphasis on choice when I'm reading. I'm not sure what my views are on preordination, sometimes I think things are destined and other times I think it's all free will. What my Granddad said make me think there's a chance that it's all 'written.'

Spirits can't see the future because the people claiming to channel them can't. It's as simple as that.

Mediums aren't fortune tellers but spirit will bring messages of comfort and warning so can only give vague platitudes that can't be verified Rather then anything useful about the duture or the purpose of life or what the afterlife is like? How very convenient. I'm sorry but this is utter, utter horseshite and you are a phoney whether you know it or not. I really don't think you are crooked, but you are equally deluded as the saps you pedal this nonsense to.

Likewise paying a fraudster to tellstell them what them fairy stories about their dead loved one doesn't help them to move on and accept the loss.

Yet millions of people around the world donate to churches, and turn to those churches in times of emotional turmoil. Priests are called to hospitals and death beds to read last rites. Fairy stories are a part of our every day lives, when babies are born and christened, when we get married, when we die. And everything in between.

Who are we to decide which fairy stories are more acceptable than others?

I personally don't believe but I think fack has been really gracious answering questions.

slice sheer whatabouterry on your part. I am equally contempous of organised religion, but this is not the topic under discussion.

Three I've seen.

1 I found at a fair. Not that accurate but knew odd stuff about my grandparents. My mum told me when we listened to the recording.

2 sought.me out to tell me I'll be heavily pregnant this summer. I suspected I was start of the year.

3 told me she'd known of my conception of said baby above (again sought me out, a friend).

Well 2 was wrong I took what they said as good signs and miscarried my very loved baby last month.
After which 3 told me her words.

So no I don't believe and I don't want to know any more of their predictions.

It's rather arrogant to assume that all we have to know is in our consciousness and what we already have discovered

I completely agree with this - but then, isn't that precisely why it's so important to bring any real abilities of this type into the public domain? Given that it would be such a massive step forward in understanding, I really don't think comments like "I don't want to be known for this" cut it

Nobody's suggesting you must ring the newspapers (or even claim that $1 million prize for charity ), but there are plenty of reputable scientific bodies who'd no doubt be fascinated. In all honestly, how can you possibly justify keeping such a world-changing issue largely private??

I'm so sorry for your loss, BigBumTheory. I know how utterly devastated you must feel having lost four of my own.

I'm not really a believer in these things.

However I went to see a Palmist many years ago. At the time I had one child and had just miscarried another. The Palmist said I would have 2 dc, then he pondered for a while and said "I see two definately but there is a third child and I don't understand the significance of that child in your life"

He admitted he didn't understand why he saw three children when my birth lines only showed two. But he was clear there would be three children in my family. Dh and I were trying for a second child but as I was nearly 40 we had no plans for a third. A year later we had our second child and settled down to life as a family of four.

Six years later and previously unplanned we adopted another.

I had forgotten all about the Palmists predictions and only remembered when I came across the notes he had written me.

I think it's such a pity that people who don't believe in spirit,religion on any kind of afterlife see themselves as superior to us 'poor saps.' Just because science can't prove it yet doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The world was once flat.

I think at the very least it's makes us warmer and more compassionate people. Utter shite or not that can't be a bad thing and if there is nothing afterwards then at least we won't know.

Whatever gives comfort and stops that cold hand of fear grabbing your heart in the middle of the night is fine in my book.

Thank you fackinhell, your words made me tear up but not in a bad way if you understand me. Im so sorry for your losses, so heartbreaking.

Puzzled, the attitudes like on here are so tiresome to keep defending myself from. I've seen it with friends who are in this line of work. There are so many people out to prove you wrong, I see it all the time. I don't see not doing it as any different to someone with a talent for painting not picking up a brush. It's not in my zone at the moment but I may go back to it. I've also had a lot of stress and bereavement lately, I need to focus on my own health before I can help others again.

It is, BigBumTheory. My latest happened only a week ago. 9wks this time. Some twisted, ironic personal best that just made it all the more shit really.

I hope you have lots of RL support, it's a horrific thing to go through. I have to leave the room or switch over at baby ads right now. It's hard to think about trying again. Could use some answers myself!!

LadyPenny sincere condolences for your loss too.

That's interesting, what you say. I have four tiny barely visible lines in that part of my hand. I'd forgotten you could check there. Thank you for the reminder!!

If psychics are true, then why don't they ask murder victims: "who killed you?". Or everyone: "is God there?". It is these 2 unasked questions that make me believe it is all baloney.

After a spiritualist evening in a pub, I found my grandmothers engagement ring which I thought that I had lost. Worth the £5 it cost me whether she was a fraud or not!

slice sheer whatabouterry on your part. I am equally contempous of organised religion, but this is not the topic under discussion.

It may not be the topic but it is under the same umbrella, and is relevant.

I don't agree with organised religion, but I am not as arrogant as to think that my opinion is somehow more important than the opinions of others. There is no right or wrong here. There is scientific fact, but even that is constantly changing. I have an open mind and respect for others, and I think those two qualities are the most important qualities to have.

I think it's such a pity that people who don't believe in spirit,religion on any kind of afterlife see themselves as superior to us 'poor saps.'

Completely agree.

I've just remembered something that happened to me a few years ago. I am not a psychic, I don't have any psychic ability.

There was a girl I worked with who I had hardly spoken to. I just had a feeling that she was an only child and that she was adopted. As I got to know her, I then had another feeling that not only was she an only child and was adopted, but that her adoptive parents were quite elderly.

All turned out to be true.

I think there were just 'clues' that led me to those conclusions. Her parents were very wealthy, but she didn't have that rosy-cheeked look of old money. She was quite self-centred in the way that sole children often are (I am one, so can relate). Also she mentioned in passing a hobby her parents had. I think this led me to assume they were elderly.

I think this is how 'being psychic' works.

My dad saw a psychic for a cold reading about 6 months after my mum died. It was recorded and I've listened to it.The information she came up with was uncanny.
Very specific names, describing a laugh, a very specific place (very small and not well known).
She mentioned the birth order of my dad's grandchildren, that 2 were born close together (son and niece 5 months apart), gave my daughter's name. She wasn't told my dad's name, but was able to say he wasn't known by his birth name,but another version of it, but only by some people (immediate family use the Gaelic version of his name as his name was the same as his father's' so family call him the Gaelic version)

There's loads more but I can't remember off the top of my head as it's about 4 years since I listened to the tape, but she was definitely credible.

And she refused payment

Oh fackinhell that's so unfair, I am sorry and I completely get about leaving the room. Such a shitty thing to happen. I have had some poor support but I am very lucky that the most has been great. I hope you have have a lot of love and support around you too.

I'm sorry for your loss too ladypenny.

I don't see not doing it as any different to someone with a talent for painting not picking up a brush

Up to a point, yes, though I'd suggest that a lovely picture, wonderful piece of music or whatever is hardly in the same league as something which would, at a stroke, change our human understanding for ever

I'm honestly sorry about the difficult time you've been having, but even if we move it away from the narrowly personal, isn't it to be expected that someone among all those who claim to have these abilities would share their knowledge at a higher level?

As I've said I completely accept there's a lot we can't know, but this wholesale (some might even say mulish) refusal to move understanding forward really does strain credibility to breaking point

Slice, I like your attitude. You and I could be friends.

"Whatever gives comfort and stops that cold hand of fear grabbing your heart in the middle of the night is fine in my book."

The problem being, of course, that for so many "mediums" that sentence can be rewritten as:

"Whatever keeps people paying money is fine in my book", and that is what people have a problem with. It's exploitative and it's often extremely harmful.

Personally, I think there should be a licence scheme for anyone who wants to earn money as a medium. Simply prove you can speak to the dead, and you are licensed to work. Strange that nobody in the woo world goes for that.

At a psychic fair the medium running a small show came to me, described my grandfather perfectly and said he had a rose from his garden to give to me. This made perfect sense as he had spent his retirement tending to his rose garden.

I didn't utter a word while the lady said this so I can't see how I could have given her information.

I believe she read my mind somehow. I do not for one minute believe my grandad was standing next to her, as she claimed.