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to ask if anyone has had a psychic reading that was extremely accurate?

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opheliaria · 09/05/2015 22:27

One that could not be down to cold reading. For example, giving out very specific details such as exact dates, unusual names, basically precise facts that cannot be fished for or guessed and are not vague?

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Hakluyt · 14/05/2015 18:33

I didn't say they were fake. I said the Byrd study was flawed, unrepeatable , selectively reported and had been superceded by better conducted trials. And that your Australian doctor had no credible references when it would have been incredibly easy for him to get some and change the world for ever.

Hakluyt · 14/05/2015 18:35

"Yes that was before you were created Mengog,..the thought of eternal nothingness is more worrying."

Why?

Roseforarose · 14/05/2015 18:40

If I thought that there was no life after this one I would probably be very depressed. How inane and pointless our lives here on earth would be.

Hakluyt · 14/05/2015 18:51

Despite all the beauty and the culture and the wonders of nature and humanity? Despite the art and music and love and laughter?

Lipsync · 14/05/2015 19:01

Again, Rose, you are the one associating lack of belief with negative emotions - now it's depression. None of the atheists on here have said the prospect of no afterlife depresses them. Why exactly is it depressing? Is life such a vale of tears for you that you need to have it redeemed by the prospect of a more perfect afterlife?

FromSeaToShining · 14/05/2015 19:05

Without any beliefs your lives are meaningless, I actually feel sorry for you.

I have many beliefs, actually. I just don't happen to believe in a god or an afterlife or anything of the religious variety. So you can cross me off your list of people to feel sorry for.

I don't care if people believe in gods or fairies or ghosts. That's entirely up to them. It does really trouble me when self-styled psychics or mediums (or indeed clergy of various stripes) take advantage of vulnerable people. But what you want to believe in the privacy or your own mind? I couldn't care less.

TTWK · 14/05/2015 19:37

Without any beliefs your lives are meaningless, I actually feel sorry for you.

Bugger, my life is meaningless. Oh well, just off to break the news to my children, my family and friends. And my fellow governers at the school and all the people at the two local charities I help fund raise for. And the blood transfusion centre, who I've been donating to for over 30 yrs. Best tear up my donor card too, because if I'm meaningless, my organs must be too.

Just one final thought before I go off and try and make the best of the empty sham of my godless life, can I ask Roseforarose, if one of my sons goes on to become Archbishop of Canterbury (god forbid Grin ) , will my life still have been meaningless?

KidLorneRoll · 14/05/2015 19:42

I think a life believing and worshipping an egotistical diety is a wasted life. Every scrap of reason tells us it's nonsense, and yet people buy into it because the thought that there is nothing else terrifies them. I hate the the idea of heaven. Life is wonderful and has meaning because we only get one shot, not in spite of it.

Roseforarose · 14/05/2015 20:51

Despite all the beauty and the culture and the wonders of nature and humanity? Despite the art and music and love and laughter?
You see the irony there (maybe not), because I believe that without God we wouldn't have all that. If we were just here by chance I don't believe we'd have love and laughter. What an awful sterile world it would be.

propelusagain · 14/05/2015 20:54

No irony.

All these things existed before christianity was invented.

dominogocatgo · 14/05/2015 20:54

The god of the bible doesn't sound much fun to hang out with.

Roseforarose · 14/05/2015 20:55

You're being facetious TTWK. You sound like you are living a fulfilling life. I believe it's not in vain because I believe, however if you believe that that is all there is then yes it would be meaningless. In a hundred years time who would care.

Roseforarose · 14/05/2015 20:57

Yes they did exist before, but as God created us he gave us all those things.

Roseforarose · 14/05/2015 20:59

I think a life believing and worshipping an egotistical diety is a wasted life. Every scrap of reason tells us it's nonsense, and yet people buy into it
You see I look at that the opposite way, every scrap of reason tells me there is a God. Its baffling why so many would think it was not so.

OhMittens · 14/05/2015 21:08

I personally believe that we are pretty much nothing but biology and when we die, we are absorbed back into the Earth and that's that. We live, we spawn, we die.

On the other hand I do believe other people who believe they have had spiritual experiences, or believe they have experienced contact from the afterlife.

The only way I can connect the two is by thinking there may be a scientific link to the energy of a person. Energy can't be created or destroyed, and every human body contains energy. Maybe there are energy waves that certain people are receptive to that channel this energy.

There are people in the world who are allergic to energy, as a medical condition - it's rare, but they have to live in remote places miles away from any form of energy - so in the same way, maybe there are people who are capable of channelling it - rare, but they are somehow receptive to it.

Go ahead and predictably scoff, TTWK and Hakluyt. Interested in any other opinions though.

propelusagain · 14/05/2015 21:17

every scrap of reason tells me there is a God

Now that's an irony. Reason and logic points to there being no god. There is not a scrap of evidence for god, and faith does not stand up to reason.

Roseforarose · 14/05/2015 21:19

I feel rather drained by this thread, too much negativity and so predictable. So I'm going. Bye all.

Roseforarose · 14/05/2015 21:24

Just one last comment before I go, reason and logic tells us there has to be a God. The evidence for a God is staggering. I'm amazed that anyone could say otherwise.

propelusagain · 14/05/2015 21:26

Give us one piece of evidence rose.

There is none.

KidLorneRoll · 14/05/2015 21:38

No Rose, you just really, really hope God exists. That's all.

TheCrimsonHorror · 14/05/2015 21:43

I have a friend who is married to a "psychic".

She believes in his "powers" 100%.

Even though he has known the birth of their 3 babies before they were born - and he was wrong. Even though he makes the worst decisions for his family regularly and leads them in to financial instability and chaos. Even though he did a reading for me and was wrong on a lot of stuff but was very certain about two things in my future - these things being nonsense I had made up and told my friend in the weeks leading up to the reading.

But he had a horribly emotionally abusive childhood, he was not the favoured child and endured some awful trauma's he should have been protected from. He seems to have discovered he had these powers after one such traumatic event and instead of taking him for counselling his parents started to play along.

He is not psychic and he has no powers yet he believes he does. He is just messed up. If he was let loose on society to give readings to vulnerable people I dread to think what would happen, as it is he is happy to kid himself and we all have to listen to it.

TheCrimsonHorror · 14/05/2015 21:43

The sex of their babies before they were born.

Lipsync · 14/05/2015 21:47

Rose, with the best will in the world, given that your idea of what constitutes 'evidence' for the existence of God involves articles in Christian newspapers and one blogger's account of his miraculous recovery, and your evidence of the credibility of a 'psychic detective' was a link to her own website, I'm not sure we would agree on what constituted 'reason' or 'logic'.

There's not even generally-agreed evidence for the existence of the historical Jesus, leaving aside his divinity. There was a very well-informed debate about it on the philosophy/religion forum a while back.

(In fact, you're unusual in my experience in claiming there's any evidence for the existence of God, far less that it's 'staggering'. Most believers acknowledge there's no evidence, and that they are making an act of faith, or a version of Pascale's wager.)

Hakluyt · 14/05/2015 22:31

"n a hundred years time who would care."

Well, I did mention Sophocles earlier........

bumbleymummy · 14/05/2015 22:58

I actually find it depressing that so many religious people spend their lives feeling guilty and ashamed and unworthy and can't wait to move on to the 'next life' while completely un appreciating how wonderful this life is/can be.