to ask if anyone has had a psychic reading that was extremely accurate?

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One that could not be down to cold reading. For example, giving out very specific details such as exact dates, unusual names, basically precise facts that cannot be fished for or guessed and are not vague?

What about love? I could go along with choosing a mate as a chemical/biological thing as we are drawn to people that will be a good genetic match to produce offspring.

Love for your child or your family though, is that just a bunch of electrical impulses? (Mummy is having a rush of electrical impulses in seeing that you're home safely, darling.) Because if you believe in the existence of that love and that you can feel is real then why not the existence of a hereafter?

My mum did. She has a recording of it. No way on earth could the medium have had any idea of the details he did.

We went once to a spiritualist church. Didn't get any messages but liked the medium so a few months later got his details. Booked a reading, gave first name only. Everything he said was correct.

Yes, Hakluyt, you say our thoughts and experiences live on in our children, but science states that they cannot cease to exist in us as individuals, just change form. They are not changing form by leaping into our children's minds, that is them creating their own experiences of us telling them things about us. Unless our thoughts, feelings and memories are documented word for word then they will cease to exist. Our children may not pass them on, remember or even care. In that sense, their existence ends of your theory is correct.

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If our thoughts memories and feelings are all just electrical impulses then why do we get upset or laugh or get angry? We are not machines. Are we here just to procreate? What for? To provide more little machines to feed the bugs and trees?

All of our behaviours have evolved because they help us survive. Laughing, for instance, helps us bond within a group. There is no evidence to say what we are here for. (There's no evidence we are here for anything. Why can't we just be here?)

Love for your child or your family though, is that just a bunch of electrical impulses? (Mummy is having a rush of electrical impulses in seeing that you're home safely, darling.) Because if you believe in the existence of that love and that you can feel is real then why not the existence of a hereafter?

Yes, the way we feel love is the way we feel anything: electrical impulses in our brain. You can't think or feel anything without using your brain. (If you saw a 'ghost' or a 'spirit' you'd have to process that sight through electrical impulses in your brain.) This is all resolved scientific fact ( how else can you sense anything? )

Yes, Hakluyt, you say our thoughts and experiences live on in our children, but science states that they cannot cease to exist in us as individuals, just change form

I Don't understand what you are referring to when you say science states that our experiences cannot cease to exist in us as individuals. Could you expand?

Energy cannot cease to exist, it can only change form. Our feelings, memories and experiences have to live on in us in some altered form. Not in the minds of others, that is not our own personal altered form but a re-creation.

So the love you feel for your child isn't special or precious, is it? Just a bunch of electronic impulses. Say for instance the biological aspect, your young need protected, fed and cared for. Love could arguably be a biological impulse not to reject our young. Why don't we stop loving them once they are capable of fending for themselves. A mother cat will chase away an adult cat that was once her kitten. They are not required any more to provide.

What is love? (Hadaway earworm alert.) isn't it the same kind of thing as faith and belief. What is it there for? We evolve to not need certain things any more. Wisdom teeth are going that way. We don't need protection from big scary dinosaurs any more. Why are we not evolving away from a pack instinct?

As for laughing, yawning and other pack instincts, that doesn't explain the feelings behind emotion. To me, that is what makes up our soul that you claim doesn't exist.

There is no evidence to say what we are here for. (There's no evidence we are here for anything. Why can't we just be here?)

Absolutely right EastMidsMummy. People waste half their lives trying to figure out the point of life but never ask themselves if there needs to be a point at all.

I've just watched a fly take off from the windowsill, do a loop in the air for 2 seconds, and land back exactly where it took off from. What was the point of that. It used up valuable calories and got nowhere. Energy was converted from fat reserves into motion and heat, lost from the fly and transferred into the room. And for what?

So you may think it's not even worth debating. It's only a fly and it was only 2 seconds. But I'm only a human and I only wizz about for 80 yrs. I arrive, flit about for 80 or so years, and then stop. In the overall scheme of the time of the universe, 13.7 billion years, 80 years is not much more than 2 seconds. Either way, compared to the age of the universe and the future time the universe will exist, 80 odd years is just a blink of an eye, no more significant than 2 seconds. And I'm no more special than a fly. A fly is my distant cousin. We share about 75% of out DNA. I'm a bit brighter but I can't walk up walls.

So if there's no point to the fly's 2 second loop in the air, what makes anyone think there's a point to their life.

So the love you feel for your child isn't special or precious, is it? Just a bunch of electronic impulses. Say for instance the biological aspect, your young need protected, fed and cared for. Love could arguably be a biological impulse not to reject our young. Why don't we stop loving them once they are capable of fending for themselves. A mother cat will chase away an adult cat that was once her kitten. They are not required any more to provide.

The bunch of electric (not electronic, unless you're a robot!) impulses aren't special or precious. The feelings they evoke are. Every feeling we have is experienced through electric impulses from the most mundane to the most intense. That's simple biology.

Our behaviours are driven by our desire to perpetuate the survival of our genes. Our genes exist in our relatives. So we don't act purely selfishly in order for our genes to thrive. We experience this drive as a glorious, beautiful, special, precious and sometimes painful emotion.

Energy cannot cease to exist, it can only change form. Our feelings, memories and experiences have to live on in us in some altered form. Not in the minds of others, that is not our own personal altered form but a re-creation.

Feelings, memories and experiences are not energy.

Just as the non believers will leave no room for doubt that there is not a life here after and state their beliefs very adamantly, then I, as a believer will say the opposite. Death is only the beginning , We are all here for a reason, when we die we will see our loved ones again. Of that I am 100% certain.

Energy cannot cease to exist, it can only change form. Our feelings, memories and experiences have to live on in us in some altered form

Fackinell, your first sentence is correct, it's the 1st law of thermodynamics.
But I don't understand why you think energy that is altered has to live on in us. Energy can't be destroyed, but in flows in and our of our bodies constantly. As you read this, your body is using energy to keep your body temperature up, and that energy is being lost to the air around you, that is warming up as a result of your body heat.

You are trying to use physics to back up your argument, but you are stuck on this idea that your energy needs to stay within you, or "live on in us". That's just fanciful nonsense. It's certainly not science.

Although I have been with a paranormal investigation team, so I do believe in the paranormal (well some of it), I don't really do mediums ... I would never go for a reading as I think alot are just fake and out to make money, so I have never paid for a reading at spirits fairs etc.

There was one time though, a lady came up to me (she was a guest medium on one of the investigations) and the things she said to me, I don't discuss with anyone.. so there is no way anyone on the team could have said anything to her because they don't know either... she said she had a message for me, she told me who it was from (including his name and including how he died) ... it was a friend who died when I was young, and what she said and the words she used, could only have been from him. The only thing that wasn't quite right was she was saying he was insisting I had 4 children (I have 3). She said he was looking after my children ... the following morning my daughter came downstaires holding a white feather, she said she found it on her pillow (we don't have feather pillows and the windows were shut it was also quite big) :)

I have worked with alot of mediums.. alot of the time they are very vague, but that lady was the only one I've come across who I believed.

I could be a medium. I've told this story on here before but I was at a party once and the woman at the bar next to me I had never met. We had been talking about mediums and I told the people I was with that I could accurately tell them all sorts of stuff about this woman. I knew that she loved horses and wanted to keep her own but wasn't in a financial position to do so. I knew she was in a relationship with somebody working in the fitness industry. I knew where she was from and what sort of music she liked. I knew she had a pet dog who was a biggish breed, pedigree and she loved him more than anything. I knew she was thinking about radically changing her hair colour or style. I knew she had recently changed jobs.

We asked this woman. I was right on every fact.

Am I psychic? No. Can I talk to spirits? No.

I'm an introvert, a people watcher and I have an eidetic memory. This makes it surprisingly easy to 'read' people.

www.patheos.com/blogs/frenchrevolution/2013/08/14/there-is-evidence-god-exists/
This is just one of many many instances of the existence of God. The people who demand proof of Gods existence should be happy with that. As this man explains, in his case the proof was there before him. I expect I'm going to get flamed now because non believers will tear it to shreds, as they tend to do. It is far far easier to believe than not to believe. I don't care what people say, there is a God and he listens to our prayers. He doesn't always answer in the way we expect, but in His way, and in His own time.
Atheists categorically say there is no God. Therefore I am entitled to categorically say there is.

I had to feed the monsters, didn't I? I have been watching this thread but getting annoyed at the way some people have had their experiences dismissed and often in a not very pleasant manner. I too believe that death is only a new beginning, Rose.

We are not deluded but nor will we accept a bunch of crap from someone who is clearly a charlatan. In the opinion of some on here a spiritual belief system equals idiocy. That's rather bigoted IMO.

It's about whatever gets you through the day, be it faith, spiritualism or the fact that one day all this will end and never again will we exist in any form other than memories until those who remember us die too.

Whatever you choose to believe, mine works for me. I think it's a much more pleasant, open and tolerant way to live.

It's about whatever gets you through the day

Not for me it isn't. It's about examining evidence and getting to the truth.

We are all here for a reason, when we die we will see our loved ones again

And we'll all be given fluffy kittens and live in gingerbread houses.

Why does there need to be a point? The reality is that everything is a wonderful accident. The idea that this life is just some bullshit trial run for something else just depresses the hell out of me.

This is just one of many many instances of the existence of God. The people who demand proof of Gods existence should be happy with that. As this man explains, in his case the proof was there before him.

Even the guy who writes the article doesn't claim it's proof. He says his story is one kind of evidence and I accept that - it's anecdotal evidence, which is not strong evidence, but is evidence of some nature. Evidence is a long, long way from proof though.

If atheists base their conviction that there is no God on lack of evidence , well I think they'll have a long wait. What sort of evidence do you expect. God and his angels looking down from a fluffy white cloud? If it was that easy we might as well all be in heaven now.

If atheists base their conviction that there is no God on lack of evidence , well I think they'll have a long wait. What sort of evidence do you expect

A great big finger coming out of the sky and a booming voice saying "I am god".

That would do for me, and Richard Dawkins too I expect. And why not? He's god after all. Why the big game of hide and seek?

Why not, Rose? If God wanted to make believers of us all, why can't he put some effort in? If he came down and did a miracle or two I'd believe the heck out of him then.

Interesting reading from a religious point of view. Thank you for that, Rose. I'm open to all systems of belief as I certainly don't know everything. I don't go to church but I certainly believe that beings of a much higher consciousness than us exist.

I live my life in the way many do as Christians. I try to be kind, gracious, charitable and tolerant. I do this because it's a good way to be but I may have some previous religious experience to validate the way I live. I do also pray if I feel I need support. I'm definitely not a 'non believer.' I am a spiritualist but when it comes to traditional religion I guess I'm more on the agnostic side.

Religion used in the way it was intended can make a society a much richer place. I'm sure it was never meant as a set of rules to do harm or control a society, that IMO is extremism. There is no harm in regular church goers going about their normal business and worshipping.

Unfortunately there are people who like to bullshit other's beliefs and consider themselves superior in the process.