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about SIL breastfeeding issue? Wedding related!

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SilverSalmon · 05/05/2015 13:08

I'm getting married in 5 weeks and there'll be 6 children at the wedding - 2 small babies and 4 toddlers. Next to the room where we're getting married is another room they use for smaller ceremonies, I asked if they could leave the door open for this in case people need to take out crying/tantrumming children (including my own 4yo DS!). They've agreed and will put sofas and a toy box in the room.

We were at my OH's parents at the weekend and his DB and wife were there. They are bringing their 2 children, our niece (4 months) and nephew (3yo) to the wedding. I told her about the room and said that I can get them sat near it just in case they need to pop out and settle or feed them (she's breastfeeding both). She said that if they need to feed she can just pull her dress down as its low cut, but I said she'll probably be more comfortable in the room as the seats are squahsed close together and may incur a lot of faffing. I've said the same to my cousin who is bring her 2 month old, who is bottle fed (and told SIL-to-be this).

Can I state at this point I'm very pro-breastfeeding, i breastfed DS until he was 2 years old, often in public, and would never ever adopy a 'there's a time and a place' attitude - however having breastfed a child of varying ages I know what a faff it can be especially when they're across your lap when someone is right next to you, so I gave the room idea as I thought it would be more comfortable for them and the children.

This morning OH has received the following email from his DB (names changed obviously):

Hi DB
Laura (SIL-to-be) and I have been discussing the issue of breastfeeding at your wedding and the fact she's been asked to go into another room if she needs to feed during the ceremony. I have to say I'm disappointed in you both as I thought you were pro-breastfeeding. Laura feels very vicitimised by this and we suspect it's because other guests may feel uncomfortable. In which case that's their issue, if they are offended by breasts being used for their natural function then they are welcome to turn their heads. Or, if it's like SilverSalmon says, and it's just for our comfort, we believe it would be easier to just get the children latched on rather than make the fuss of getting up and leaving the room.

I think it may be a good time to also mention that, as you know, Laura tandem feeds and because DS is still feeding when she latches DD on he usually comes up asking for some too. Meaning that it's highly likely that she'll need to tandem feed at various points during the day. We're happy with this and she has chosen a tandem-feeding friendly dress for this reason. Laura is not prepared to be shoved into a side room like she's doing something sordid, she wants to be part of the day too. So wether it be during the ceremony, dinner, speeches etc, she will need to tandem feed and is not prepared to leave the room to do it. I have to put the comfort and needs of my wife and children first. If you're not happy with this arrangement I'm afraid we won't be able to come - I'm not having any of us penalised because of our feeding choices. None of us would enjoy a day where the children and Laura are constantly seperate from me and the feeding is non-negotiable. It's up to you 2 but can you let us know asap and then we do things like cancel the hotel room and return our outfits. I hope you understand our point of view, I don't want to fall out with you but I didn't think breastfeeding would be such an issue!"

So mumsnet AIBU to be upset about this? I genuinely thought I was being helpful when I offered a side room for the ceremony. Help!

OP posts:
leedy · 06/05/2015 23:09

"urg grammar fail"

meaning success, though.

Nice to read something that isn't "tandem feeding??? PMSL!!!" or "gosh I'm so edgy making fun of breastfeeding, truly I am telling like it is, like that Katie Hopkins off the telly".

leedy · 06/05/2015 23:14

And once more for the hard of understanding, I am not saying the SIL is entitled to do whatever she wants because she's breastfeeding, but it is possible to say so without saying that the entire idea of toddler breastfeeding or tandem feeding is laughable/weird/disgusting.

drinkscabinet · 06/05/2015 23:19

BIL and SIL seem to be of the professionally offended variety. I think the OP and her HTB have been very thoughtful and reasonable so hopefully it will blow over.

Shocked at some of the attitudes on here, my youngest is 2.5 and still BF (with a CMPA, does that make it OK since he can't have bovine milk?). If we were at a wedding I'd do everything possible to keep him quiet during the ceremony and that would include offering snacks, having a cuddle, or any of the other things PPs have suggested are unacceptable at a wedding.

IceBeing · 06/05/2015 23:25

leedy ha I read your post at least 5 times before I could parse "meaning success"

Well that's what I would read into the message the op posted. Not that the toddler is fed on demand, but that the baby is, which then causes the toddler to join in.

leedy · 06/05/2015 23:28

I think I'm going to have to step away from this as it's making me upset.

My toddler broke his arm a few weeks ago (all well now) and the only things that would comfort him after the accident was "milk time'. The idea of people thinking about my crying, hurting baby at my breast as "Ugh! Swinging off her tit! Nobody needs to see that! Bitty! Just like Little Britain! Ha ha ha!" is now making me want to cry. So thanks, there. Job done. Making other women cry on the internet == freaking hilarious.

Gennz · 06/05/2015 23:40

People will always judge your parenting though. You can't control what other people think of you, you can only control your response to it. It's not just tandem breastfeeding, people judge the shit out of everything parenting related.

If I got upset every time I got told I was too posh to push (for booking an elective C-section) I'd need to have therapist on speed dial. I don't know why extended breastfeeders are such special snowflakes that they can't possibly be subjected to any views on their decisions ever.

Bodyinpyjamas10 · 06/05/2015 23:49

Boffin Grin

Is that 3 year old in a dress? Was sil tandem feeding in a disabled bay? Head exploding.

Weathergames · 06/05/2015 23:50

500 pages later surely the evangelical breast feeders on this thread have done exactly what the SIL is doing and made it all about breastfeeding.

Which the OP was not.

Bodyinpyjamas10 · 06/05/2015 23:52

leedy good grief of course you would calm a hurt toddler any way they need. I bf my 4 to toddlerhood.

Still think the sil/bil are exhibitionist twats though.

Breastfeeding doesn't mean you can't abide by sensible norms.

DixieNormas · 06/05/2015 23:54

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GingerCuddleMonster · 06/05/2015 23:54

Gen I can't believe you just told an extended breastfeeder to basically "man the fuck up".....I think you just poked a hornets nest...I don't think that's allowed...the swarm will come...

Weathergames · 06/05/2015 23:55

No - the OP was about the OPs wedding ceremony.

DixieNormas · 06/05/2015 23:58

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Weathergames · 07/05/2015 00:01

It is now yes, but I think there are about 500 of the OPs SILs on this thread, also wanting it to be all about them, and the focus on them.

This is about the OPs wedding.

Gennz · 07/05/2015 00:05

Hahahhahahahaha Ginger

I was BFing DS while typing! I am contradiction wrapped in a riddle!

He is only 51/2 months though so nothing impressive in the jurrasic timeframe of potential BFing

DixieNormas · 07/05/2015 00:05

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Gennz · 07/05/2015 00:07

I thought the OP was about weird sanctimonious twatty email

DixieNormas · 07/05/2015 00:09

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Strokethefurrywall · 07/05/2015 00:09

It's not really about breastfeeding at all, it's about OP's SIL's inability to consider that not everything revolves around her tandem feeding her kids.
All she had to say was "thanks so much for the offer of the side room, that's really kind!" and go on her merry way feeding however she wanted but she didn't. She made a point in a very sharp email to drive home the point that she has chosen to be hurt and offended by something that wasn't even designed to hurt or offend. Which makes her a fucking rude both honestly. Doesn't occur to her to tell her 3year old no he can't also have a feed when the 4 month old does and appears to get her knickers in a twist that "her" rights as a breastfeeding mother, are being violated.
Breastfeeding is just an agenda that SIL wants to get frothy over, simple as that.
I don't have any opinion over extended breastfeeding, couldn't give a rats arse frankly. But this isn't about breastfeeding, it's about entitled and rude behavior...

Weathergames · 07/05/2015 00:10

It's about the BIL being a controlling arse and having no consideration for the nature of the event.

From this thread you would think the most important thing in the world about being a parent is breastfeeding. It's not.

It does not do "the cause" any good because there are a lot of quite frankly ridiculous, staunch views being aired on this thread.

Where does common sense, manners and compromise prevail - I mean seriously.

DixieNormas · 07/05/2015 00:14

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CultureSucksDownWords · 07/05/2015 00:15

So it's fine and dandy to say the most unpleasant things about breastfeeding/extended breastfeeding mothers then? Because that's what seems to be the vindictive general conclusion by many on this thread. And the use of the phrase "special snowflake" makes me strangely furious wherever I see it, as it is a snide and contemptuous way of dismissing other people's point of view if you don't happen to agree with them.

Bodyinpyjamas10 · 07/05/2015 00:18

See now I picture the sil with a babe at each nork actually riding a tandem bike.

Bil is behind with a loud hailer shouting 'clear a path my wife is breastfeeding and she's not afraid'.

I need sleep or more Wine

Weathergames · 07/05/2015 00:19

Nothing in life is appropriate everywhere and good parenting teaches children that.

The op wants all her guests to be comfortable. Just because she is choosing to tandem feed (the most ridiculous expression I have heard) does not make her need trump everyone else's.

DixieNormas · 07/05/2015 00:19

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