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about SIL breastfeeding issue? Wedding related!

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SilverSalmon · 05/05/2015 13:08

I'm getting married in 5 weeks and there'll be 6 children at the wedding - 2 small babies and 4 toddlers. Next to the room where we're getting married is another room they use for smaller ceremonies, I asked if they could leave the door open for this in case people need to take out crying/tantrumming children (including my own 4yo DS!). They've agreed and will put sofas and a toy box in the room.

We were at my OH's parents at the weekend and his DB and wife were there. They are bringing their 2 children, our niece (4 months) and nephew (3yo) to the wedding. I told her about the room and said that I can get them sat near it just in case they need to pop out and settle or feed them (she's breastfeeding both). She said that if they need to feed she can just pull her dress down as its low cut, but I said she'll probably be more comfortable in the room as the seats are squahsed close together and may incur a lot of faffing. I've said the same to my cousin who is bring her 2 month old, who is bottle fed (and told SIL-to-be this).

Can I state at this point I'm very pro-breastfeeding, i breastfed DS until he was 2 years old, often in public, and would never ever adopy a 'there's a time and a place' attitude - however having breastfed a child of varying ages I know what a faff it can be especially when they're across your lap when someone is right next to you, so I gave the room idea as I thought it would be more comfortable for them and the children.

This morning OH has received the following email from his DB (names changed obviously):

Hi DB
Laura (SIL-to-be) and I have been discussing the issue of breastfeeding at your wedding and the fact she's been asked to go into another room if she needs to feed during the ceremony. I have to say I'm disappointed in you both as I thought you were pro-breastfeeding. Laura feels very vicitimised by this and we suspect it's because other guests may feel uncomfortable. In which case that's their issue, if they are offended by breasts being used for their natural function then they are welcome to turn their heads. Or, if it's like SilverSalmon says, and it's just for our comfort, we believe it would be easier to just get the children latched on rather than make the fuss of getting up and leaving the room.

I think it may be a good time to also mention that, as you know, Laura tandem feeds and because DS is still feeding when she latches DD on he usually comes up asking for some too. Meaning that it's highly likely that she'll need to tandem feed at various points during the day. We're happy with this and she has chosen a tandem-feeding friendly dress for this reason. Laura is not prepared to be shoved into a side room like she's doing something sordid, she wants to be part of the day too. So wether it be during the ceremony, dinner, speeches etc, she will need to tandem feed and is not prepared to leave the room to do it. I have to put the comfort and needs of my wife and children first. If you're not happy with this arrangement I'm afraid we won't be able to come - I'm not having any of us penalised because of our feeding choices. None of us would enjoy a day where the children and Laura are constantly seperate from me and the feeding is non-negotiable. It's up to you 2 but can you let us know asap and then we do things like cancel the hotel room and return our outfits. I hope you understand our point of view, I don't want to fall out with you but I didn't think breastfeeding would be such an issue!"

So mumsnet AIBU to be upset about this? I genuinely thought I was being helpful when I offered a side room for the ceremony. Help!

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AldiQ7 · 06/05/2015 21:02

It's just the whole tone of the email that makes them look like such dickheads.

'You have arranged for a side room for anyone with kids who may want to use it, and suggested that Laura might want to use it? How very dare you you know that we are TANDEM BREASTFEEDERS. We will need to TANDEM FEED at various points during the day. If you are not willing to bend over backwards to facilitate our TANDEM BREASTFEEDING then we will have to take our TANDEM FEEDING outfits back and will be forced to not attend.

Seriously, who fucking uses the term 'tandem feeding' in real life anyway? Surely it's just 'feeding them both' or something?

atomich01 · 06/05/2015 21:05

Total tosh, sorry! As far as I'm concerned, this is about the SIL having zero respect for the bride and groom. BFing during a wedding ceremony? Come on, this simply screams of the "I'll feed wherever I like just because I can and no-one's going to tell me otherwise" brigade. How many of the posters on here GENUINELY would insist on tandem feeding a 4mo and a 3yo during a wedding ceremony? Seriously? That's attention-seeking of the highest order! Nothing to do with body-shaming or women's rights, everything to do with being bl**dy-minded and refusing "on principle" even tho OP has done her best to ensure comfort and semi-privacy.

Livjames1 · 06/05/2015 21:08

A three year old child does not NEED to breastfeed end of story, your Bil/SiL are idiots.

atomich01 · 06/05/2015 21:12

So wether it be during the ceremony, dinner, speeches etc, she will need to tandem feed and is not prepared to leave the room to do it.

That kind of says it all really. She wants what she wants and to hell with everyone else - including you and your H2B. They're both out of order.

PterodactylTeaParty · 06/05/2015 21:12

Ha, I think that was my analogy, actually. Although I didn't say anything about 'wouldn't be tolerated'. I said I wouldn't have dreamed of telling gay couples at my own wedding to not act like couples in case it offended someone from the older generation. So why is it reasonable to say 'don't breastfeed that kid in case it offends someone from the older generation'?

atomich01 · 06/05/2015 21:16

Most people are sensitive to the fact that occasions like weddings bring together people of different age groups and viewpoints, people that they wouldn't generally socialise with, and would be discreet in behaviours that may cause offence to anyone, purely to keep the peace out of respect for the bride and groom (I know a couple of gay couple friends who would act in this way at least).

Why should OP's SIL think that she's above that?

PterodactylTeaParty · 06/05/2015 21:25

You know, it is possible for someone to think the OP's BIL/SIL are being ridiculous drama queens, and still think that "but nobody considerate would breastfeed at a wedding, won't somebody think of Great Aunt Mildred!" stuff here is also a bit ridiculous.

tinymeteor · 06/05/2015 21:31

Tell him 1. She can feed wherever she likes, it's just another option, and 2. He should know better than to jump to conclusions about your excluding her, and threatening to skip his sister's wedding without so much as a phone call to sort it out is appalling.

nickersinaknot · 06/05/2015 21:35

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AldiQ7 · 06/05/2015 21:35

Why should OP's SIL think that she's above that?

Because she is a tandem feeder dont you know. She needs to feed her 3 year old wherever and whenever she needs to.

Oh wait....no she doesn't. Because he is THREE YEARS OLD!

nickersinaknot · 06/05/2015 21:36

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Shelby2010 · 06/05/2015 21:43

I've got 2 small DC & invariably if one has/does something then the other wants the same. So I can completely see that if SIL starts feeding the baby then the toddler is going to want to join in, if that's what normally happens. Yes a 3 year old could be told to wait, but the middle of a wedding ceremony is really not where I would choose to try to explain that to them. I think at that time you just do whatever it takes to keep them quiet - my DC is quite well behaved but I'm not ashamed of chain feeding her smarties during the ceremony of the last wedding we went to.

Some people seem to have forgotten how difficult it can be to stop small children from asking 'But WHY do I have to be quiet?!' very loudly at the most in opportune moment!

Also, if being shocked by tandem feeding is the talking point of the day, then think yourself lucky you haven't had the drunken uncles, fighting cousins, crying MIL & bridesmaids having nervous breakdowns that often feature on these threads!

frumpet · 06/05/2015 22:16

I cannot understand how anyone can be offended by being offered the relative luxury of a sofa to breastfeed on as opposed to a hard armless upright seat , surely it is a no brainer . I know which I would pick given the choice . 'Do you want to perch on a titivated kitchen chair or sink into a squidgy sofa' , hmm tough choice there Grin

Gennz · 06/05/2015 22:32

I think the insistence on having to be able to tandem feed wherever, whenever, is a bit odd but whatever - the weirdest thing is sending the email.

If I'd had a conversation with my sister in law and she had said there was a room available for BFing in, AND I'd taken offence to it (which I wouldn't, as am incapable of BFing discretely and not madly keen on getting my tits out for all and sundry so would be stoked about a separate room, but that's a red herring) I would have just had a quiet bitch to my DH afterwards and then, on the day, proceeded to BF whereever I felt like doing it - the bride is hardly going to come down off the altar and snatch the baby & the 3 year old off the SIL's boob.

Writing a telly-off Breastfeeding Manifesto to your SIL prior to her upcoming wedding is pompous and weird.

Strokethefurrywall · 06/05/2015 22:39

My God, this is the thread of ridiculousness that keeps on giving.

Can anyone just tell me what the OP's response to the SIL/DB was because I absolutely can't be fucked to trawl back through the 14 odd pages since I last posted. Thanks!

BoffinMum · 06/05/2015 22:41

Tell em MN says to give them both a bottle and see how many threads that fills Wink

BoffinMum · 06/05/2015 22:43

108 posts to go, folks, until the thread is full .....

Pureed Greggs should keep the 3YO quiet during the ceremony.

Pony74 · 06/05/2015 22:51

We'll I love the gays, but I think walking and talking children sucking on a bosom is rank!

Pony74 · 06/05/2015 22:53

Plus all the gays I know have great rhythm and make a good jambalaya!

leedy · 06/05/2015 22:53

"Also, if being shocked by tandem feeding is the talking point of the day, then think yourself lucky you haven't had the drunken uncles, fighting cousins, crying MIL & bridesmaids having nervous breakdowns that often feature on these threads!"

Yes, a friend of mine's wedding featured the groom's uncle taking his clothes off and dancing on the table. I think they'd have been grateful for a bit of tandem feeding, to be honest.

BoffinMum · 06/05/2015 22:56

Have a topless wedding so they feel at home. Grin

Pony74 · 06/05/2015 22:56

I doubt it.

Pony74 · 06/05/2015 22:58

I once tried to bf my cat. Sadly she wouldn't latch on, but if she had, could I bring her to the wedding? As a sort of babe in arms and a plus one combined?

IceBeing · 06/05/2015 23:00

I think people are misunderstanding the "on demand" side of things. There is very little chance of a 3yo needing to be fed on demand, but if they have a when the baby gets some the toddler does thing going on then by default the 3yo is fed on the babies demand. And presumably people do think the SIL should feed the baby on demand, even if that means during the ceremony?

The one and only time 3yo DD wanted BM at a time other than wake up or bedtime was when she saw a little baby BFing.

It really caught me out and turned into a bit of a thing because obviously she couldn't understand the random society inflicted issues with her apparently straight forward request.

She couldn't understand how her having BF could be okay at bedtime but not at lunch time, or that it is okay for a 3mo to BF in public but not a 3yo.

And she wasn't actually wrong.

Anyway she latched for all of 30 seconds realised she wasn't actually hungry gave me a long cuddle instead and that was that.

IceBeing · 06/05/2015 23:02

urg grammar fail