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about SIL breastfeeding issue? Wedding related!

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SilverSalmon · 05/05/2015 13:08

I'm getting married in 5 weeks and there'll be 6 children at the wedding - 2 small babies and 4 toddlers. Next to the room where we're getting married is another room they use for smaller ceremonies, I asked if they could leave the door open for this in case people need to take out crying/tantrumming children (including my own 4yo DS!). They've agreed and will put sofas and a toy box in the room.

We were at my OH's parents at the weekend and his DB and wife were there. They are bringing their 2 children, our niece (4 months) and nephew (3yo) to the wedding. I told her about the room and said that I can get them sat near it just in case they need to pop out and settle or feed them (she's breastfeeding both). She said that if they need to feed she can just pull her dress down as its low cut, but I said she'll probably be more comfortable in the room as the seats are squahsed close together and may incur a lot of faffing. I've said the same to my cousin who is bring her 2 month old, who is bottle fed (and told SIL-to-be this).

Can I state at this point I'm very pro-breastfeeding, i breastfed DS until he was 2 years old, often in public, and would never ever adopy a 'there's a time and a place' attitude - however having breastfed a child of varying ages I know what a faff it can be especially when they're across your lap when someone is right next to you, so I gave the room idea as I thought it would be more comfortable for them and the children.

This morning OH has received the following email from his DB (names changed obviously):

Hi DB
Laura (SIL-to-be) and I have been discussing the issue of breastfeeding at your wedding and the fact she's been asked to go into another room if she needs to feed during the ceremony. I have to say I'm disappointed in you both as I thought you were pro-breastfeeding. Laura feels very vicitimised by this and we suspect it's because other guests may feel uncomfortable. In which case that's their issue, if they are offended by breasts being used for their natural function then they are welcome to turn their heads. Or, if it's like SilverSalmon says, and it's just for our comfort, we believe it would be easier to just get the children latched on rather than make the fuss of getting up and leaving the room.

I think it may be a good time to also mention that, as you know, Laura tandem feeds and because DS is still feeding when she latches DD on he usually comes up asking for some too. Meaning that it's highly likely that she'll need to tandem feed at various points during the day. We're happy with this and she has chosen a tandem-feeding friendly dress for this reason. Laura is not prepared to be shoved into a side room like she's doing something sordid, she wants to be part of the day too. So wether it be during the ceremony, dinner, speeches etc, she will need to tandem feed and is not prepared to leave the room to do it. I have to put the comfort and needs of my wife and children first. If you're not happy with this arrangement I'm afraid we won't be able to come - I'm not having any of us penalised because of our feeding choices. None of us would enjoy a day where the children and Laura are constantly seperate from me and the feeding is non-negotiable. It's up to you 2 but can you let us know asap and then we do things like cancel the hotel room and return our outfits. I hope you understand our point of view, I don't want to fall out with you but I didn't think breastfeeding would be such an issue!"

So mumsnet AIBU to be upset about this? I genuinely thought I was being helpful when I offered a side room for the ceremony. Help!

OP posts:
OrangeMochaFrappucino · 06/05/2015 09:45

I'm breastfeeding my 1yo. I've been on weekends away and sent him to extended family for the weekend several times - he's taken a bottle, I've expressed, there has been no problem. I eat and drink as normal, I go to work. It hasn't restricted my life one bit and there is nothing I can think of that breastfeeding prevents me from doing. I cannot think of any way in which it is incompatible with feminism either.

AlisonBlunderland · 06/05/2015 09:57

I feel sorry for Laura.
Now if she fancies some peace and quiet to feed both of them, she will feel honour bound to stay in her allocated seat after that email from BIL

Seffina · 06/05/2015 09:59

That's shocking and disgusting leedy

Cloudy beer, tut, I don't know.

Grin
oddfodd · 06/05/2015 10:03

I took my DS out of a wedding ceremony at that age, yes. And no I wouldn't feed him chocolate buttons either.

Attention being diverted from the bride and groom outweighs my wish to stay and watch the ceremony. And buttons or boob are distracting for other guests.

devon004 · 06/05/2015 10:07

Surely getting up and leaving during the ceremony would divert more attention away.

HazleNutt · 06/05/2015 10:13

Based on the tone of the letter, I would not be surprised if Laura looked more like this:

about SIL breastfeeding issue? Wedding related!
Chiefbumwiper · 06/05/2015 10:14

There is no reason why a three year old needs a breastfeed during a civil ceremony. In the same way my 3 year old wouldn't be having a snack during a civil ceremony, he just has to learn to wait.

Findingthisdifficult1234 · 06/05/2015 10:14

I think they are being unreasonable. Just email back and say it wasn't meant like that at all and sorry if that's how they felt. Don't make a big deal of it- seems this is the kind of attention they want!
Hope you enjoy your day OP, your husbands brother and wife sound like very strange people !

Seffina · 06/05/2015 10:18

"And buttons or boob are distracting for other guests."

Confused

Why? How much noise do your boobs make?! Gives the word 'hooters' a whole new meaning!

Seriously though, I doubt that people watching two people get married would even notice someone starting to breastfeed. And even if they did, why would it be anything other than a momentary distraction, such as if someone sneezed.

nickersinaknot · 06/05/2015 10:24

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WhyHasTheGinGone · 06/05/2015 10:28

I haven't finished the thread yet - but when everyone was saying 'send penguin's email' I thought they meant an email containing a penguin bollards attachment or something so BIL/SIL were stalked on the Internet as punishment for the next few months! Grin

Off to finish now and get frothy with the rest of you

BigBirthdayGloom · 06/05/2015 10:43

I bf my three, nearly four year old dd. She now only bf last thing at night and first thing in the morning but at two it was a comfort and she would ask during the day. I've never been in the position to tandem feed as both dd1 and ds stopped feeding just before I was pregnant with the next baby. I do have friends who have tandem fed and support them, although truthfully I'm glad I didn't.
I say all this as background to what I think. I went to a wedding last year and bf dd2 (aged 2.5) during the reception. But I left the room-just felt right (that and my dress come to think of it!).

My view on weddings is that it is the guests job to make themselves part of the day and make the day special for the bride and groom. It's nice when it works both ways (and it sounds as if you have thought about your guests) but sometimes there are compromises.

And my view on bf is that I want to be ignored doing it rather than insisting on my rights.

MiddleAgedandConfused · 06/05/2015 10:50

There are two worlds clashing here - the world of mums with young children who are used to breast feeding in public and don't think it is unusual. The other world is everybody else - older people who would never have breast fed in public in their day, kids who are older and haven't seen anybody breastfeed, couples without kids, single men and so on.
What is totally normal on one world is not normal in the other.
I would expect that people from the second world would be surprised to see tandem breastfeeding at a formal dinner. Not saying they would be upset by it, but they might find it a bit out of place and do a double take when they see it.
What comes across to me from the confrontational email is that I am not sure the OP can rely on them to feed discreetly - sounds like they are up for a fight and will feed in a way which is attention seeking. Which would be unfair to the OP in lots of ways.

SilverSalmon · 06/05/2015 11:02

Hi all
We sent that email lidll suggested and haven't heard back! We need to confirm final numbers next week so will be calling them at the weekend if they don;t reply before then - just very casual to say "hi just checking you're still coming to the wedding" and if they raise the breastfeeding issue we'll just say she can feed whenever and wherever she wants.

If she's determined to tandem feed there's nothing I can do to stop her. I'm aware it's highly likely to draw attention though and don't think it's unreasonable to hope that on my wedding day the focus isn't on someone else.

Still quite shocked about attitudes on here about breastfeeding toddlers. I could go on and on but all I have to say is if someone chooses to feed their child to natural term it's no one elses damn business.

OP posts:
Seffina · 06/05/2015 11:02

How do you feed in a way which is attention seeking?

Seffina · 06/05/2015 11:04

I hope anyone who has read this whole thread and has seen some of the comments aimed at bf mothers now realise why such an OTT reaction may happen.

balletnotlacrosse · 06/05/2015 11:10

Well by the same token Seffina I hope that Laura's husband's email serves as a reminder of how annoying the breastfeeding 'constantly making a big deal of it' mafia are, almost deliberately setting out to cause annoyance and then, when they get a reaction, running down the 'oh anti breastfeeding, are you?' route.

Seffina · 06/05/2015 11:16

[eyeroll]

Mafia? Now who's the one deliberately setting out to cause annoyance?

DownWithThisTypeOfThing · 06/05/2015 11:16

OP aren't your last two paragraphs contradictory?

Hoppinggreen · 06/05/2015 11:18

There is a lot of ground between " I can feed my 10 year old whenever or wherever I want and anyone who thinks I should consider anyone else is anti BF" and " breasts are disgusting you should only BF in the toilet- since it's a lot like pooing anyway"
Most of us inhabit that middle ground - some people on this thread clearly don't.

MadgeMak · 06/05/2015 11:19

Christ, is this thread still going?

Just marking my place for Laura's response. Grin

Waltermittythesequel · 06/05/2015 11:19

How do you feed in a way which is attention seeking?

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Have you not read the thread? Just because opinions are different to yours doesn't mean they're invalid.

Posters here have said they would notice and be distracted. Some have even said they'd be uncomfortable.

Is that Laura's problem? No.
Is the occasion about Laura? No.
Is it the right place to stand her ground and give zero fucks as to who she's affecting? NO.

It's not her wedding. It's not about her.

Seffina · 06/05/2015 11:19

I'm not trying to annoy anyone, I'm just trying to work out what people find so distracting and uncomfortable about breastfeeding. And what people mean when they talk about women making a big deal about it, or doing it in an attention seeking way Confused I honestly don't understand what the big problem is, other than the whole boobs for sex thing. And I have never seen a woman make a big deal about breastfeeding any child. Are they squirting milk in people's faces or something?

The only answer I've had is from someone who says that her boobs are distracting, bit of a stealth boast IMO Wink

nickersinaknot · 06/05/2015 11:20

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hobNong · 06/05/2015 11:21

I just wish people who breastfeed could do so without it prompting any reaction whatsoever. And people who don't breastfeed could equally do so with no reaction from others.

I have a wedding coming up myself (not the op's!) and am dreading it because my dd will still be breastfeeding and I know dp's family don't like it as they've made that clear. It has been playing on my mind for months and this thread has made me feel more worried. I'm really not feeding to prove a point or draw attention to myself or anything. In fact I hate attention on me like that!