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about SIL breastfeeding issue? Wedding related!

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SilverSalmon · 05/05/2015 13:08

I'm getting married in 5 weeks and there'll be 6 children at the wedding - 2 small babies and 4 toddlers. Next to the room where we're getting married is another room they use for smaller ceremonies, I asked if they could leave the door open for this in case people need to take out crying/tantrumming children (including my own 4yo DS!). They've agreed and will put sofas and a toy box in the room.

We were at my OH's parents at the weekend and his DB and wife were there. They are bringing their 2 children, our niece (4 months) and nephew (3yo) to the wedding. I told her about the room and said that I can get them sat near it just in case they need to pop out and settle or feed them (she's breastfeeding both). She said that if they need to feed she can just pull her dress down as its low cut, but I said she'll probably be more comfortable in the room as the seats are squahsed close together and may incur a lot of faffing. I've said the same to my cousin who is bring her 2 month old, who is bottle fed (and told SIL-to-be this).

Can I state at this point I'm very pro-breastfeeding, i breastfed DS until he was 2 years old, often in public, and would never ever adopy a 'there's a time and a place' attitude - however having breastfed a child of varying ages I know what a faff it can be especially when they're across your lap when someone is right next to you, so I gave the room idea as I thought it would be more comfortable for them and the children.

This morning OH has received the following email from his DB (names changed obviously):

Hi DB
Laura (SIL-to-be) and I have been discussing the issue of breastfeeding at your wedding and the fact she's been asked to go into another room if she needs to feed during the ceremony. I have to say I'm disappointed in you both as I thought you were pro-breastfeeding. Laura feels very vicitimised by this and we suspect it's because other guests may feel uncomfortable. In which case that's their issue, if they are offended by breasts being used for their natural function then they are welcome to turn their heads. Or, if it's like SilverSalmon says, and it's just for our comfort, we believe it would be easier to just get the children latched on rather than make the fuss of getting up and leaving the room.

I think it may be a good time to also mention that, as you know, Laura tandem feeds and because DS is still feeding when she latches DD on he usually comes up asking for some too. Meaning that it's highly likely that she'll need to tandem feed at various points during the day. We're happy with this and she has chosen a tandem-feeding friendly dress for this reason. Laura is not prepared to be shoved into a side room like she's doing something sordid, she wants to be part of the day too. So wether it be during the ceremony, dinner, speeches etc, she will need to tandem feed and is not prepared to leave the room to do it. I have to put the comfort and needs of my wife and children first. If you're not happy with this arrangement I'm afraid we won't be able to come - I'm not having any of us penalised because of our feeding choices. None of us would enjoy a day where the children and Laura are constantly seperate from me and the feeding is non-negotiable. It's up to you 2 but can you let us know asap and then we do things like cancel the hotel room and return our outfits. I hope you understand our point of view, I don't want to fall out with you but I didn't think breastfeeding would be such an issue!"

So mumsnet AIBU to be upset about this? I genuinely thought I was being helpful when I offered a side room for the ceremony. Help!

OP posts:
devon004 · 06/05/2015 07:54

How would it be for one adult. Does the 3 year old not get a seat?

Seffina · 06/05/2015 07:54

Ah sorry, I see.

I originally asked that question yesterday, when people were saying any breastfeeding should me covered up at a wedding because people might feel uncomfortable, but it wasn't clear exactly what made people uncomfortable.

It's impossible to gauge how disruptive this family will be. If they have three seats between them (SIL, DH and 3YO) there should be plenty of room for her to feed both children without encroaching on other people's space. But we don't know the spacing in the venue or how wriggly these particular children. And we don't know she'll be making a song and dance about it. People are braver behind a keyboard than they are in real life - see twitter trolls! And maybe she was feeling bad and her DH was the cause of the OTT reaction rather than her. Who knows!

BetterWoman · 06/05/2015 08:00

The email is quite passive aggressive but that says more about them than it does you; just pop a quick reply back saying "dude, you are overreacting; the room is there as an OPTION for anyone who wants it and you are welcome to feed your children wherever and whenever you wish". Or what Penguins and Cucumber said :)

kungfupannda · 06/05/2015 08:12

maybe you can strap a small baby on with one of those hippy rags

I loved my hippy rags. They meant I actually left the house from time to time. DS2 never went longer than a couple of hours between feeds and usually went from fine to OMG I'M SO HUNGRY I MIGHT DIIIIIE in about half a second.

My finest moment was probably feeding him while climbing over a stile in the pissing rain, clutching a giant umbrella and yelling 'I told you not to go in that mud' at a screaming, mud-caked DS1.

That, or the cheese aisle in Sainsburys.

Earth-mother extraordinaire, that's me Grin

Goldmandra · 06/05/2015 08:20

Especially as Laura will be making a song and dance about it because that's the sort of person she is

Could you let us all know the election result too, as you seem to have a marvellous crystal ball at your disposal?

SoldierBear · 06/05/2015 08:30

Given the amount of detail in the email about Laura and their insistence on having everything the way they want it it is not unreasonable to picture her as exactly the sort of person who will make a song and dance about anything and everything child related. They both sound like total nightmares who will be terrible guests because they want everything to be about them and their kids.

HazleNutt · 06/05/2015 08:33

I also don't think it's bad manners or lacking in common decency to feed a baby if they need feeding

  • baby. There's no reason a 3-year old needs to eat anything, whether breastmilk or McDonalds, exactly during the ceremony.

If they are including small babies in the invitation then surely it's clear that small babies may cry/make noises/feed at regular intervals and to expect them to be silent throughout a ceremony is daft?

  • it's not daft to expect parents to take the noisy baby out then, so people can actually hear what the bride and groom are saying. Laura has pretty much said she is not planning to do that.
devon004 · 06/05/2015 08:34

Well I have had two weekends away from dd and I am still breastfeeding. One at 16 months and one at just over two. Service resumed as normal upon my return.

spiney · 06/05/2015 08:38

Kungfupanda on the stile GrinGrin
love it

purdiepie · 06/05/2015 08:39

I breastfed my 9 year old at a tribal wedding in Papua New Guinea. The elder told me to fuck off behind a tree.

Goldmandra · 06/05/2015 08:45

Given the amount of detail in the email about Laura

It's a snapshot written by someone else.

Nobody knows what she will do.

Only1scoop · 06/05/2015 08:52

From the email I wouldn't be surprised if she attempts to force feed them both whilst sitting in the aisle as you make your entrance.

She will adopt top table as her dc area as it has more space.

Watch out Wink

code · 06/05/2015 08:58

I find my twin teenagers latch on quite discreetly. It gets easier once they're able to kneel down in front of you.

OTheHugeManatee · 06/05/2015 09:03

They are being a bit OTT. But isn't it par for the course for any wedding to have a couple of oddballs? If she wants to waft about like Artemis with multiple infants swinging from her boobs then all the more wine for everyone else good luck to her; shrug your shoulders and enjoy the day.

Topseyt · 06/05/2015 09:08

Laura could have dictated/written the email herself.

Might be just me, but I don't know many men who would actually have sent it. Supportive of their wives, yes, but would have stopped short of that.

CheesyDibbles · 06/05/2015 09:09

I'm thinking the altar will make a great place to breast feed. Plenty of room to spread out and the best view in the house.

Seffina · 06/05/2015 09:09

"it's not daft to expect parents to take the noisy baby out then, so people can actually hear what the bride and groom are saying. Laura has pretty much said she is not planning to do that."

Because she doesn't feel the need to, because she can feed her children where she is sat. The children are quiet and she gets to watch the ceremony too - win win.

hobNong · 06/05/2015 09:11

As a feminist (who never managed to put on a "hippy rag" - damn dyspraxia) I think it is our society's odd attitude to breasts that is anti-feminist.

General consensus seems to be that breasts used for feeding are disgusting and should be kept hidden away. Breasts should only be shown at appropriate times - you know, when they're there to titillate men or to sell a product, or sometimes both.

AlisonBlunderland · 06/05/2015 09:13

I would worry about this bit from their OTT email
So wether it be during the ceremony, dinner, speeches etc, she willneed to tandem feed and is not prepared to leave the room to do it.

The will bit is rather forceful. Not Might, not May, but Will feed.

She's going to have to BF just as DH gets to best anecdote in his speech

Goldmandra · 06/05/2015 09:16

Laura could have dictated/written the email herself.

She could have.

She may also be mortified about the email and wishing her DH would pull his head in and let her slip away quietly to the side room when necessary.

I suspect that the reality is somewhere in between the two but none of us actually knows.

diddl · 06/05/2015 09:20

It is forceful, but he's more less listed the whole day, so he is correct, she will need to feed!

Really, it's the "is not prepared to leave the room"

What, even if it encroaches on the people next to her??

Singsongsung · 06/05/2015 09:23

Why would you need to bfeed a 3 year old on demand? Surely hunger shouldn't be an issue?? The child that age should be eating proper meals! I am all for bfeeding babies but 3 year olds are hardly that and tandem feeding with all on display at a wedding would be in very poor taste in my opinion. Feeding the baby during the service I absolutely understand and can't imagine why you'd need to move to do that.

Seffina · 06/05/2015 09:29

RTFT

leedy · 06/05/2015 09:39

"That's ridiculous and, tbh, a bit anti-feminist. There's so much stuff you can't do while you're BFing, such as having a night out - or a weekend break, or a career that demands long periods of both concentration and the use of all four of your limbs."

Oh FFS. I am still feeding 2.5 year old DS and fed DS1 til he was around the same age (and I was pregnant again). I have a very senior tech job, I was out at a gig last night, I've been away for weekends, and I'm going to New York for five days (for work) next week. He normally feeds morning and evening, will demand occasionally during the day (and I'll feed him if it's convenient for me), but he can't demand when I'm not physically there.

Excellent article by my friend: www.thefword.org.uk/features/2009/01/breastfeeding_r

As I said upthread, can we focus on the OP's weird relatives and get away from the ridiculous digs at all breastfeeding mothers (HO HO THEY'LL BE FEEDING TEENAGERS NEXT HO HO DIRTY SELF-OBSESSED EARTH MOTHER WEIRDOS IT'S ALL ABOUT THEM I BET EVEN THE BABIES HATE IT IT'S SO INAPPROPRIATE THEY JUST LOVE GETTING THEIR UNFANCIABLE TITS OUT TO MAKE A POINT) and frankly ugly, shaming, anti-woman talk about their bodies.

leedy · 06/05/2015 09:44

"with all on display"

OK. Look. Here I am feeding a 2.5 year old. In a pub. While having a beer and checking my email (I do like to multi-task). WHAT CAN YOU SEE?

about SIL breastfeeding issue? Wedding related!