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about SIL breastfeeding issue? Wedding related!

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SilverSalmon · 05/05/2015 13:08

I'm getting married in 5 weeks and there'll be 6 children at the wedding - 2 small babies and 4 toddlers. Next to the room where we're getting married is another room they use for smaller ceremonies, I asked if they could leave the door open for this in case people need to take out crying/tantrumming children (including my own 4yo DS!). They've agreed and will put sofas and a toy box in the room.

We were at my OH's parents at the weekend and his DB and wife were there. They are bringing their 2 children, our niece (4 months) and nephew (3yo) to the wedding. I told her about the room and said that I can get them sat near it just in case they need to pop out and settle or feed them (she's breastfeeding both). She said that if they need to feed she can just pull her dress down as its low cut, but I said she'll probably be more comfortable in the room as the seats are squahsed close together and may incur a lot of faffing. I've said the same to my cousin who is bring her 2 month old, who is bottle fed (and told SIL-to-be this).

Can I state at this point I'm very pro-breastfeeding, i breastfed DS until he was 2 years old, often in public, and would never ever adopy a 'there's a time and a place' attitude - however having breastfed a child of varying ages I know what a faff it can be especially when they're across your lap when someone is right next to you, so I gave the room idea as I thought it would be more comfortable for them and the children.

This morning OH has received the following email from his DB (names changed obviously):

Hi DB
Laura (SIL-to-be) and I have been discussing the issue of breastfeeding at your wedding and the fact she's been asked to go into another room if she needs to feed during the ceremony. I have to say I'm disappointed in you both as I thought you were pro-breastfeeding. Laura feels very vicitimised by this and we suspect it's because other guests may feel uncomfortable. In which case that's their issue, if they are offended by breasts being used for their natural function then they are welcome to turn their heads. Or, if it's like SilverSalmon says, and it's just for our comfort, we believe it would be easier to just get the children latched on rather than make the fuss of getting up and leaving the room.

I think it may be a good time to also mention that, as you know, Laura tandem feeds and because DS is still feeding when she latches DD on he usually comes up asking for some too. Meaning that it's highly likely that she'll need to tandem feed at various points during the day. We're happy with this and she has chosen a tandem-feeding friendly dress for this reason. Laura is not prepared to be shoved into a side room like she's doing something sordid, she wants to be part of the day too. So wether it be during the ceremony, dinner, speeches etc, she will need to tandem feed and is not prepared to leave the room to do it. I have to put the comfort and needs of my wife and children first. If you're not happy with this arrangement I'm afraid we won't be able to come - I'm not having any of us penalised because of our feeding choices. None of us would enjoy a day where the children and Laura are constantly seperate from me and the feeding is non-negotiable. It's up to you 2 but can you let us know asap and then we do things like cancel the hotel room and return our outfits. I hope you understand our point of view, I don't want to fall out with you but I didn't think breastfeeding would be such an issue!"

So mumsnet AIBU to be upset about this? I genuinely thought I was being helpful when I offered a side room for the ceremony. Help!

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LondonLady29 · 05/05/2015 22:09

I don't think this is about breastfeeding the OP and Laura are both pro breast feeding. Laura has got the hump because the OP doesn't really want her to tandem feed a newborn and THREE YEAR OLD in a cramped space during her wedding. OP has provided a great alternative, a room next door. No one is suggesting BFing is sordid but it's distracting and a fuss during wedding vows and a three year old doesn't need it so Laura is being completely unreasonable. She's an invited guest. OP hopefully they'll come and show your wedding some respect.

Maryz · 05/05/2015 22:09

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rainbowtoddle · 05/05/2015 22:11

Oh lady I don't think your defensive stance is worthy a response -- im sure it's clear that anything that helps normalise toddler breastfeeding should be welcomed.

LadyCatherineDeTurd · 05/05/2015 22:11

I just wouldn't even know where to start with that little gem.

Well at least you admit it missing. Do come back to me when you've got a reason other than because I say so, though. It would be fascinating to hear it.

MissingYouSoMuch · 05/05/2015 22:11

It was the latter Spiney until it got hijacked and taken down that very well worn path

AldiQ7 · 05/05/2015 22:12

The matter would be a little more complicated if the baby sibling is feeding at that time and the three year old is used to joining in. A quiet response to mummy suddenly saying "No. You have to wait" is rather less likely in those circumstances.

Well then perhaps mummy should have started teaching that sometimes you do have to wait for stuff some time ago.

Maryz · 05/05/2015 22:14

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RandomMess · 05/05/2015 22:14

Think I'd want to slip into the response something along the lines of, "the room is there for any parent who needs it, for example so screaming from any child doesn't drown out the vows for the rest of the guests including our DS! I'm not quite sure why you got the idea it was provided for your exclusive tandem feeding comfort..."

But then I can be a bit of a cow at times!!!

LondonLady29 · 05/05/2015 22:16

random haha that's a great response!

jacks11 · 05/05/2015 22:16

Their reaction was totally OTT and that email utterly pompous.

I think a bit of consideration all round is needed.

I agree that women should be free to breastfeed, but you cannot pretend that others will not be raising an eyebrow at a 3 year old tandem feeding with a baby. You can say it is their problem if they don't like it- and you'd be right. However, those who aren't comfortable with it can also say it is your problem if they don't like it and make this obvious.

FWIW in this case, I can imagine in a tight space tandem feeding could be disruptive to those around them, which is not considerate. I also wonder about how it would work at the dinner table- 2 children feeding in a relatively small space could be a little cramped.

I too find it difficult to believe a 3 year old would have to be fed during the ceremony (baby is different) and at 3 years of age, really is old enough to understand "no, you'll have to wait" in the same way as I would expect a 3 year old not to expect to be given a snack every time they demanded it.

I wouldn't apologise, just suggest crossed wires and room available if she wants to use but that you think she should take an end seat to allow for more space and make more space.

I agree that moving the dinner places to a group the OP feels will not bat an eyelid if SIL does tandem feed at dinner is a practical solution. Many may think it is not necessary, but why deliberately make both parties uncomfortable at a wedding? It seems more hassle than it's worth and unless OP has told SIL where they were planning to sit, she'll never know.

CultureSucksDownWords · 05/05/2015 22:16

Children are a distraction and a fuss during any kind of solemn ceremony. If you don't want any chance of any distraction or fuss during a wedding then don't invite children. If you invite children, leave it up to the parents to manage them.

It is very thoughtful of the OP to provide a sideroom for the children. It was clearly a misunderstanding that the SIL thought she was being forced to use the sideroom if she needed to feed. Yes the SIL was being very touchy in how she responded to the comments. If the OP actually has a problem with tandem feeding in public then she should be clear about this to her SIL and then accept that they won't attend the wedding.

purdiepie · 05/05/2015 22:16

Dear Laura and her pussy-whipped husband,

You may well feel breastfeeding is about the most important event in the history of the world, like, ever, but I'm here to tell you it ain't. My wedding is the most important event ever and if you can't keep your politicised breasts under control during my wedding ceremony I will take my bra off and throttle you with it. If I had my way I would not even have my own son at my wedding, never mind your two snivelling velcro tots and your infantile subjugated husband. I have kindly supplied a side room for you to unleash your arsenal of milk guns and there is a splendid majestic oak in the grounds of the hotel for you to go and hug whenever you feel you are not getting much-deserved attention from ostentatiously tandem feeding your nippers.

All the breast,

The fabulous and far-more-important-than-any-other-fucker bride

xxx

PterodactylTeaParty · 05/05/2015 22:16

No one is suggesting BFing is sordid but it's distracting and a fuss during wedding vows

But why is it more distracting and more of a fuss than her standing up during the ceremony, gathering the 4mo and 3yo with her, and walking out to a side room?

GingerCuddleMonster · 05/05/2015 22:16

I'd go with the flow, then wait for SIL to have some big do and make a huge fuss over nothing, maybe even force a dart and follow through on the dance floor if she plays up at the wedding, but then I'm vindictive and have no shame Grin.

Koalafications · 05/05/2015 22:17

So does the fact that some people are perceived to be on a breastfeeding "crusade" mean that the unpleasantness aimed at breastfeeding is acceptable and justified?

No, I don't think people being unpleasant is justifiable. But, as with any 'extreme' opinion those on a crusade are more likely to alienate their audience and reduce the effectiveness of their message.

LadyCatherineDeTurd · 05/05/2015 22:18

If you didn't think my post was worthy of a response rainbow then you wouldn't have replied. You clearly have nothing to say in support of your 4.2 years claim and it becomes more obvious with every post. And to be clear, are you claiming that making obviously inaccurate claims about the global average age of weaning actually helps normalise toddler breastfeeding, rather than making the person doing it look like they have no idea what they're on about?

MissingYouSoMuch · 05/05/2015 22:18

Lady I will let you have that. I think I would rather eat my own arm than engage in perhaps the most mind numbingly ridiculous comparison between a 3 year old not needing to feed during a ceremony and a wedding not needing vows, food etc

I still can't believe I typed that sequence of words out Smile

Bodyinpyjamas10 · 05/05/2015 22:19

Rainbow sorry no. It's just a chosen way of giving milk to am infant. It's not a privilege or any other bollicks it's just personal choice.

Maryz and random has it.

And how spectaculaly nasty of the sil/bil to pick a fight with the op who is actually trying to help all the parents going to the wedding.

God they sound tiresome.

Strokethefurrywall · 05/05/2015 22:21

I don't think this has anything to do with tandem feeding a 3 year old and 4 month old, and everything to do with the twatty DB/SIL taking offence at absolutely nothing and making it all about them. Most normal people I know who have needed to feed a baby (bottle or breast) during a wedding ceremony or event, has done the decent thing, gotten their ass up and gone somewhere quiet and peaceful so the baby doesn't disturb the event. It's just common fucking manners and decency!

A 3 year old can go without milk from breast, bottle or cup for a mere 20 minutes whilst the OP and her husband say their vows. Would be even nicer for them if they can say their vows without her SIL merrily forcing her own agenda on to everyone else there.

What the fuck is wrong with people? It isn't about her and her "rights" to do anything, it's about the OP and her right to have a lovely wedding ceremony without having to concern herself with this sort of shit!

Fucking hell, this has made me angry!

If you know you're going to get grief long term because of this, just withdraw the invitation. And call them out on their ridiculously entitled behaviour.

MissingYouSoMuch · 05/05/2015 22:23

Stroke You have nailed it in that post Smile

CheesyDibbles · 05/05/2015 22:24

They sound utterly self-centred.

I would simply say 'The room is there for your convenience, but please do as you wish'. Then leave them to it. Focus on YOUR day and don't get sucked in any further.

GingerCuddleMonster · 05/05/2015 22:24

rainbow I can't believe you described breastfeeding as a privilege...WTF?!

spiney · 05/05/2015 22:24

that's it Stroke

JuicyMassiveForcepsVagina · 05/05/2015 22:25

Hear! Hear! Stroke the furry wall!