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about SIL breastfeeding issue? Wedding related!

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SilverSalmon · 05/05/2015 13:08

I'm getting married in 5 weeks and there'll be 6 children at the wedding - 2 small babies and 4 toddlers. Next to the room where we're getting married is another room they use for smaller ceremonies, I asked if they could leave the door open for this in case people need to take out crying/tantrumming children (including my own 4yo DS!). They've agreed and will put sofas and a toy box in the room.

We were at my OH's parents at the weekend and his DB and wife were there. They are bringing their 2 children, our niece (4 months) and nephew (3yo) to the wedding. I told her about the room and said that I can get them sat near it just in case they need to pop out and settle or feed them (she's breastfeeding both). She said that if they need to feed she can just pull her dress down as its low cut, but I said she'll probably be more comfortable in the room as the seats are squahsed close together and may incur a lot of faffing. I've said the same to my cousin who is bring her 2 month old, who is bottle fed (and told SIL-to-be this).

Can I state at this point I'm very pro-breastfeeding, i breastfed DS until he was 2 years old, often in public, and would never ever adopy a 'there's a time and a place' attitude - however having breastfed a child of varying ages I know what a faff it can be especially when they're across your lap when someone is right next to you, so I gave the room idea as I thought it would be more comfortable for them and the children.

This morning OH has received the following email from his DB (names changed obviously):

Hi DB
Laura (SIL-to-be) and I have been discussing the issue of breastfeeding at your wedding and the fact she's been asked to go into another room if she needs to feed during the ceremony. I have to say I'm disappointed in you both as I thought you were pro-breastfeeding. Laura feels very vicitimised by this and we suspect it's because other guests may feel uncomfortable. In which case that's their issue, if they are offended by breasts being used for their natural function then they are welcome to turn their heads. Or, if it's like SilverSalmon says, and it's just for our comfort, we believe it would be easier to just get the children latched on rather than make the fuss of getting up and leaving the room.

I think it may be a good time to also mention that, as you know, Laura tandem feeds and because DS is still feeding when she latches DD on he usually comes up asking for some too. Meaning that it's highly likely that she'll need to tandem feed at various points during the day. We're happy with this and she has chosen a tandem-feeding friendly dress for this reason. Laura is not prepared to be shoved into a side room like she's doing something sordid, she wants to be part of the day too. So wether it be during the ceremony, dinner, speeches etc, she will need to tandem feed and is not prepared to leave the room to do it. I have to put the comfort and needs of my wife and children first. If you're not happy with this arrangement I'm afraid we won't be able to come - I'm not having any of us penalised because of our feeding choices. None of us would enjoy a day where the children and Laura are constantly seperate from me and the feeding is non-negotiable. It's up to you 2 but can you let us know asap and then we do things like cancel the hotel room and return our outfits. I hope you understand our point of view, I don't want to fall out with you but I didn't think breastfeeding would be such an issue!"

So mumsnet AIBU to be upset about this? I genuinely thought I was being helpful when I offered a side room for the ceremony. Help!

OP posts:
Heels99 · 05/05/2015 16:54

Perhaps all guests will be offered some, she could stand by the tea urn and squirt away

nickersinaknot · 05/05/2015 16:55

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GetMeFlamed · 05/05/2015 16:59

Bluestocking - Yes Cressida and Malcolm from The Modern Parents! I was thinking of them too!

I don't think Cressida breastfed Tarquin and Guinevere though as she thought it was "disgusting" but she would hold workshops on "ethnic feeding practices" until some actually did breastfeed and she started shouting at them Grin

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EstRusMum · 05/05/2015 17:03

God yes what if bil latches on during the ceremony? Just to make the point.
GrinGrinGrin
Now I really want to see the wedding photos.

spudholes · 05/05/2015 17:08

Reading that email again, I'm starting to wonder if your BIL is being breastfed. He seems over-invested about the situation.

leedy · 05/05/2015 17:11

"Posters are just taking the piss out of the crazy ils. Lighten up."

Ah, "lighten up", the last cry of the desperate rude person (along with "oh, I didn't mean you"). How hard is it to comprehend that all the "bitty" etc. remarks are actually pretty offensive to some of the thread posters, including the OP.

It's like if someone posted an AIBU thread about, I dunno, their incredibly rude auntie and her girlfriend and people starting weighing in with dyke jokes. But hey, extended breastfeeders are just comedy gold, eh?

Waltermittythesequel · 05/05/2015 17:14

Confused this is escalating rather rapidly...

DixieNormas · 05/05/2015 17:17

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DownWithThisTypeOfThing · 05/05/2015 17:22

Dear BIL to be,

FUCK OFF YOU SANCTIMONIOUS TWAT.

regards,

SilverSalmon.

Or I suppose if you want to keep them in your lives, Penguin's email up thread is probably best.

Not in the least bothered how people feed their kids. If they can't see that rows of tightly packed seats mightn't be ideal in terms of comfort well that's up to them. But I cannot fucking abide being hectored or the whole "let us know and we'll return our outfits and cancel our hotel" shit. Fuck them.

Koalafications · 05/05/2015 17:25

PS: can't three year old just suck on you for the day since you're clearly a giant tit?

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maninawomansworld · 05/05/2015 17:27

DW breastfed both of our DC's but your future BIL and wife are being ridiculous. Someone's wedding is not the time or the place to be stamping feet like toddlers.

Personally I'd tell them tough, my day, my rules.

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Cheby · 05/05/2015 17:30

So many 'I support breastfeeding but ' comments.

Also some downright horrible comments making fun of natural term feeding.

Icimoi · 05/05/2015 17:34

Why on earth would anyone need to feed a three year old anything at a wedding ceremony? Breastfeeding would be as inappropriate as giving them a packet of crips! They are three, they can wait 20mins.

Maybe. But who seriously wants to be the parent in a wedding ceremony with a three year old standing in front of them loudly demanding Mummy milk and asking why he should wait? There is a time for showing discipline and a time for doing whatever it takes to restore peace.

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maninawomansworld · 05/05/2015 17:34

QueenofallIsee

^I would be telling the sanctimonious tit where to go as below;

I find the tone of your email unutterably rude as I think that we were perfectly clear that the provisions were made for the comfort of mother and child, not bride and groom. We are offended at your assumption we are not pro breast feeding, and can see no reason for your ridiculous reaction other than a desire to create conflict over what should be a happy occasion - should I assume that the offer of a room with comfortable seating will see a breast feeding protest undertaken on our wedding day?

Please do return your outfits and I look forward to a Daily Mail headline.
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Ok, just read this reply from earlier - well done QueenofallIsee

Just copy and paste that, absolutely perfect!

Seffina · 05/05/2015 17:38

Some of us have said that yes, the reaction was OTT, but that we can understand why women can sometimes feel criticism for breastfeeding even when none is intended, because of real criticism in the past.

In 3 years of breastfeeding, you hear lots of comments about how it's "inappropriate" or that people may find it uncomfortable (without explaining exactly what makes them feel uncomfortable) or that "it's a bit little britain" or talking about children swinging off tits or about breastfeeding adults. These things can cause women to be on the defensive when discussing breastfeeding and especially when you are hearing that someone wants you to go elsewhere to feed in case someone else doesn't like it.

devon004 · 05/05/2015 17:42

Sgb are you my sil? She is always being judgy about me breastfeeding my toddler. Well actually all my in laws do. Dd apparently doesn't need it at 2 and I am just doing it for my benefit. And we wonder why so many stop at 6 months.
Op yanbu for offering the room but yabu for continuing to mention it when she said she was fine.
Email was ridiculous but I suspect that sil has received similar words of wisdom re breastfeeding post 6 months to my experience. Plus if I am attending a wedding I want to see whole ceremony and don't want to let my food go cold if I need to feed. Plus I doubt 3 year old will be feeding constantly plus they will have their own seat as others have said so sil unlikely to bash anyone.

leedy · 05/05/2015 17:44

"It is hard to comprehend that others would take offence"

Really? So as someone who's fed/is feeding two giant toddlers I should read people talking about how they don't want to see a big child "swinging out of somebody's tit", Little Britain references (oh how I hate that sketch), how the child is going to be a spoilt brat because he's BF, how generally freakish extended breastfeeding is, and I should just find it all hilarious? There are plenty of ways to make fun of someone's sense of entitlement/pomposity (and I did find the "squirting into the coffee cup" one funny) without being rude about something that's a very normal part of some posters' day to day lives.

Variousrandomthings · 05/05/2015 17:48

Yes I can see that you gave the impression she had to feed in the room. I'm very pro extended feeding, it's just a normal thing. If people have an issue though, it's them that have the problem and not your SIL. Excellent letter though. I hope it gets a good response. I do think you should have apologised though for giving the wrong impression.

Cheby · 05/05/2015 17:52

What feelings? Seriously? If you're upset or offended by breastfeeding then you're in the wrong, that one is easy.

But most comments were 'I support breastfeeding but actually only under my own set of conditions that I have deemed appropriate to my personal sensibilities'.

nickersinaknot · 05/05/2015 17:53

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CaptainAnkles · 05/05/2015 17:54

No idea why anyone would object to a small baby being breastfed, or indeed a three year old but I agree that the 3yo shouldn't need feeding on demand, they should be getting used to the idea that not everything they like happens immediately.
Can't they practise the art of 'waiting a little while' with the child on the run up to the wedding?

Seffina · 05/05/2015 17:57

Nobody wants to be that parent with the shouting child at a wedding. I've seen many dummies in 2/3 year old mouths at weddings for exactly the same reason - peace and quiet to watch the ceremony/speeches.