To ask if your teenage children swear? And do you mind?

[MrsFring]

I have three teenagers; Dd1 (19), DSL (17) and Dd2 (14). I swear. Quite a bit when I've got my dander up. The older two swear in extremis but not very much, their choice. Dd2, however, has started to swear much more frequently and 'cunt' is her currently favoured word. She tends to use it when upset by something on the news or when fighting with her brother (which is most of the time). She assures me that she never uses it at school when a teacher could hear her.

She is a very principled, passionate girl and does tend to get a bit carried away. DH is more bothered by her swearing than I am, I suspect that he considers it unladylike but would never dare to say that to me.

What do think? Would you mind?

oh come on yesidid, let's have a moratorium on slagging off people's punctuation etc., it is really not a reasonable argument.
You do not have to have an A in Eng Lang O level to have an opinion after all.

Mine don't, and I would be cross if they did. Neither me nor DH swear either.

No need for it, it just makes you sound uneducated imo.

Oh and if the comment about punctuating correctly was aimed towards me, can I just tell you that I'm dyslexic. I may struggle with my words or puctuation and grammar but I am in no way stupid, if I were I don't think I'd of successfully completed my education ie GCSE's A levels, business and marketing degree etc.

Sunny, my own spelling and punctuation can be appalling, I don't judge posters on this by itself, believe me! But to say stuff like

I can honestly say I have never swore in front of any of my three children, I can't stand swearing, it's sounds disgusting, chavvy etc and in my opinion it demonstrates a persons lack of intelligence and literacy if profanity is the first thing to come out of their mouth anytime they're angry or upset.

where people are bemoaning others' "lack of intelligence and literacy" yet not showing much of their own, sort of begs for the point to be made, dont you think?

Jesus wept, what is it with this whole 'people who swear are uneducated' thing?

I have a first class degree and an MA, for crying out loud.

Perhaps it just means I am intelligent enough to realise a totally arbitrary word said by a child who doesn't know what it means isn't a reason for the fucking language police to start calling you a disgusting person and a terrible parent?!

Swearing is not acceptable in our house in front of the children and I've never heard my mum swear, it just never happened.. And the times I've ever sworn at my dad were punished severely..

Very sad that people think it's appropriate for children to swear and then actually think it's funny when they do....

Well shouldnt you know better than to slag off people's literacy and intelligence, then?

You do sound a bit stupid to me Liv, sorry.

Who the fuck are you to tell people they are "bad parents"?!

'have never swore', 'chavvy' - yeh OK

I really really dislike the word 'chavvy' it just seems to mean 'poorer than us'

add you keep repeating yourself - why? I read what you said the first time round... just because you keep repeating the same thing doesn't make me think any differently.

Yes, quite. I find the word 'chavvy' a lot more offensive than the word 'fuck' and frankly I would rather my child said Fuck than called someone a chav.

just because you keep repeating the same thing doesn't make me think any differently

right back at you, dear. Convincing argument btw.

People who swear seem uneducated? To who?

People less educated, intelligent and articulate than me?

add sorry ive not repeated anything ive said...

I will write and comment in a way I see fit and I don't have to be grammatically correct 100% of the time, well not on a public forum anyway. This in itself is not a measure of my intelligence so it's irrelevant but personally i judge, and actively choose to judge parents who allow their children to swear and find it amusing. As far as I'm concerned these parents could have degrees, PhD's, Doctorates etc but I would still think of them as irresponsible idiots for allowing their children to act in such a way.

I'm sure your bad opinion of them will keep them up at night liv .

I am wondering though, if you pass on your poor judgement on swearing versus education/intellect/class to your DC, how are they going to navigate the world properly?

There are so many situations/environments/industries where it is so clearly wrong.

oh fgs who actually cares if a teenager says fuck?
like we have said before other things are more important, to some of us at least.
No offence liv but it is the micromanaged and overcontrolled children that either cannot deal with adult life or go crazy when they sniff freedom.

My parents swore loads in front of me when I was growing up, didn't do me any fucking harm

My children are not over controlled simply because i ask them not to swear. They have their own minds but in every family there has to be boundaries and in ours, swearing is definitely crossing that boundary. It does not mean my children will not be able to cope with adult life or "go crazy" as you put it.

My DP swears alot, but its everyday working with lots of other sweary guys habit type of thing- I very occasionally swear ,DC are grown up- one DD swears more than the other two but I think thats because her DP talks like that.
I do cringe when both of my son -in -laws come to visit , say maybe a BBq, and they get louder and louder and neighbours must be able to hear- I think it sounds awful when its every other word, but the occasional 'fuck' or' shit' is nowt to me!!

I am wondering though, if you pass on your poor judgement on swearing versus education/intellect/class to your DC, how are they going to navigate the world properly?

why is it, in your opinion, bad judgement?

sorry poor judgement? that's what I get for trying to do 3 things at once...

"I have a first class degree and an MA"

doesn't everyone on the internet have these?

If you judge someone who swears as being uneducated, unintelligent, inarticulate then that is an extremely poor judgement.

The vast majority of people I hang with are highly educated, intelligent and articulate. The vast majority swear.

Telling your DC otherwise is just absurd.

peggy are you trying to insinuate I haven't got either, because there's not much point in having that discussion unless you'd like me to upload copies of my certificates for you to inspect.

*I am wondering though, if you pass on your poor judgement on swearing versus education/intellect/class to your DC, how are they going to navigate the world properly?

why is it, in your opinion, bad judgement?*

Erm, how about because you're teaching them to judge people as thick based on the fact they use a word?

" doesn't everyone on the internet have these? "

no my degree is only second class and my MA incomplete.
I do really find your assertions about swearing and people being 'thick' or whatever, laughable.