To vote Tory to stop UKIP?

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My constituency is a marginal. Current polls show 36% Tory, 33% UKIP, 18% Labour 10% LD, with a +/- 3% margin of error.

My personal preference would be Labour, but if I vote for them UKIP might take the seat.

Even though I hate the very idea of voting Tory, AIBU to vote for them anyway just to keep UKIP out?

(Really really detest, abhor and loathe UKIP)

I suppose when you disprove Islam, one of the key messages you relay is terrorism. (Seeing as there is one cultural Marxism terrorist and multiple Islam terrorists.)

Do you realise that your sentences make no sense at all?

I'm in the same position as you op. Being forced to vote Tory in the hope that the ukippers don't get in is making me feel dirty especially when voting for an ex-UKIP Tory. Also as labour are not supporting a very important local issue there really is no choice as I see it.

Goblin, do you feel that the Scots have no right to a say about the government of the UK? Yet it's apparently fine when the government is controlled by a tiny group of Old Etonians, who represent nobody but themselves and their own narrow interests?

I oppose UKIP because I am female and I have female children. Life under UKIP would be a disaster for women.

I oppose UKIP because I have disabled friends who don't want to live in 'communities' setting them aside from the 'norms'

I oppose UKIP because I have foreign born relatives who want to remain living in England.

I oppose UKIP because I want women to have bodily autonomy.

I oppose UKIP because I don't believe that Muslims are the bogeyman.

I oppose UKIP because I know that being a part of Europe is better for the country than being against it.

I oppose UKIP because I resent paying for UKIP MEPs to sit on their arses and not even attend parliament.

I agree with everyone exLtEveDallas says, but would like to add one more:

I oppose UKIP because I think the environment matters. A lot.

Aren't UKIP and the Tories likely to buddy up in a coalition if UKIP get enough seats?

This sounds like me last election, I will vote Lib Dem to keep the Tories out. Did not work...

Why is it so unthinkable for the SNP to hold influence in a post GE government, but not the nutters of the DUP?

They might not be part of a formal coalition, but they will certainly vote the same way as Conservatives in most issues so I don't think there is much between them. The same with LIb Dems. There might be some red lines, but essentially they will follow the same agenda.

I'd vote Labour. It's so tight between them and the Tories at the moment, I wouldn't want to risk giving the Tories the tiniest advantage.

If Farage doesn't win in Thanet, he says he'll quit. If Cameron doesn't manage to form a government of some sort, the Tory right wing are waiting to depose him. The removal of Farage and the emergence of a more Eurosceptic, right wing Conservative Party would remove UKIP as a political force.

Uncertain smile - yes of course I am speaking having made a set of simple assumptions. What other choice do I have in a forum where the standard of debate is "oppose this" "oppose that". "Hold your nose to this" without any rational debating around it or indicators to the reasoning. It's the intellectual and philosophical equivalent of talking in grunts.

I don't think the tories will team up with UKIP. Firstly, I don't think that they will get enough seats and secondly I think it would be political suicide for the conservative party. The best long term way to see UKIP off from their point of view is to not give them the legitimacy of a coalition.

YABU. The whole point of UKIP is to make people vote Tory. This election is going to be very close and Labour needs every vote it can get even in seats where there is no chance of winning, because the percentage of overall votes may have an impact on coalition discussions - not so much coalitions labour might enter because they have said they won't, but on people being oreoared to work with the Tories. Improve their vote share you increase their claim to legitimacy. Don't do it. Don't fall into their trap. Vote your conscience.

Uncertain Smile - I hear you said you oppose Islam but I bet that I a public meeting, the workplace or public release document you would be more willing to express your dislike of the right wing more than your dislike of Islam. Why? Because you would be following social convention, today's "rules".

vote labour
UKIP and Tories are two sides of the same arse.
By voting labour you take a vote away from both of them and the Tories seem to be way out in front anyway
Nothing, but nothing could make me vote tory. Ever

Was just going to post the same as you, UncertainSmile. The DUP wielding influence in government are what should really alarm people in the UK. Misogynistic, homophobic, fundamentalist, creationist, sectarian & xenophobic nutters.

Spires, I see lots of coherent debate in this thread. Except from you.

Uncertain Smile - I have heard this argument before about unhelpful populism. Do you think it's a knee jerk reaction. It's exactly the same thing university professors that I had said.

Why shouldn't European people
Oppose a full migrant onslaught, like all the sub-Saharan African people coming on boats from Libya right now.

Are you going to tell people that they are ignorant if they don't want to change the entire nature of their continent through mass-immigration.

Can you explain to me why people shouldn't feel this way?

Spires, yet again more assumptions. My view would be a plague on both their houses.

I don't want Labour in either. Not after their last shambles, I'd actually rather see another Tory/LibDem coalition. Rock and a hard place here, frankly they're mostly as bad as each other, with the exception of UKIP, who are beyond the pale.

Uncertain Smile - I have heard this argument before about unhelpful populism. Do you think it's a knee jerk reaction. It's exactly the same thing university professors that I had said.

I'm sounding like a broken record I know, but this doesn't make sense. How can someone argue with you when you don't have enough grasp of the language to make a coherent point?

Does one single vote hold that much power?

This "blaming everything on immigrants" is a comete lie and red herring. No one in their right minds wants to blame everything on immigrants. But why should we watch immigration by the millions and parts of our country turn into India, Africa, the far-East. I am a well travelled person and nothing haunts other cultures but why on earth would we want this type of demographic change by the millions?

Did anyone ever consent to turning this country this way?

nothing haunts other cultures?????

Unintelligible, I'm afraid.

Ok, Spires, I'll bite. People have every reason to feel uneasy about immigration, people do worry about seeing their communities change over time. I fully understand that. We helped to create this crisis though; we bombed Libya, removed Gaddafy, and helped to create that hellhole of competing militias. If I lived there, I'd try and escape to. What do we do? Sink the ships? Leave them to drown? It's a humanitarian catastrophe.