To vote Tory to stop UKIP?

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My constituency is a marginal. Current polls show 36% Tory, 33% UKIP, 18% Labour 10% LD, with a +/- 3% margin of error.

My personal preference would be Labour, but if I vote for them UKIP might take the seat.

Even though I hate the very idea of voting Tory, AIBU to vote for them anyway just to keep UKIP out?

(Really really detest, abhor and loathe UKIP)

You may have noticed that I am addressing cliche meanings of these terms against possible meanings not dictionary definitions.

What the fuck is this even supposed to mean?

Not at all I have made an argument in my first post that at a time when we are way out of balance with regards to political correctness e.g. Double standards like "gay marriage is good for Christianity but not Islam" and ignoring Asian pedophile gangs because is too non-P.C. To address it, it's absolutely nuts for people to say they want to boycott the only main party that wants to oppose this.

I further made the argument that we are in financial dire straits and the politicians are not discussing the extent of this. It's just the Moneyweek article the actual economic data points to this. If you look at the national economic data for Britain and the U.S. In The Economist when they show end of year numbers, you can see the lines of red. The fact that spending cuts still mean massive rises in spending is a scientific fact.

I am a consultant in financial services.

You are now very clear about the arguments I have made, so tackle them head on, directly and stop the nonsense, acting like politicians trying to fool people.

I am a consultant in financial services.

And I'm the King of the Moon.

So what's your plan?

What the f@@@ is it supposed to mean?

It means that words like ignorance, prejudice, gay, tolerance even gender have been hijacked to portray specific political meanings as part of a process of manipulating thought and language.

What is UKIP policy on gay marriage? How would they deal with 'Asian paedophile gangs'?

It means that words like ignorance, prejudice, gay, tolerance even gender have been hijacked to portray specific political meanings as part of a process of manipulating thought and language.

Language evolves, especially the English language. Get used to it.

No, it's too close to hand the Tories a seat if you don't like them. UKip are noisy but not that important. Vote Labour and keep your hands clean.

But you are not the king of the moon and I am literally a consultant in financial services.

I think I can see what's going on here. There is a sea of ignorance and clearly a very clever players in it (your reference to Ayn Rand's novel).

Those clever players want to keep the majority asleep in ignorance in accordance with the Liberal/ left Frankfurt School ideas they have learned and a learned fear that challenging these ideas or an unconscious linking of the challenging of those ideas to Nazi Germany.

Hence those types attempt to shepherd the masses in to making statements like "how do we keep the UKIP out" without them actually putting a great deal of thought into the process . . . . "They are prejudiced innit."

And of all those words, only 'Gay' has developed a new meaning, except perhaps 'gender'. The others mean what they always did. Language develops, nobody has guardianship of English. Otherwise you end up like the French, trying to swat foreign words away. That ways lies stagnation.

You are a Conspiracy Theorist then.

You do realise that there isn't a real underground leftist/liberal cabal controlling things, don't you? Most of the print media in this country is owned by right wing oligarchs, Richard Desmond is even giving money to UKIP.

Yep. Full Moon and the loonies are out and about!

I love this, like having a nice chat at the bar with your friends and the really pissed up bloke with an unlit fag mishears you and leans in to join your conversation and froth on you.

I can't emphasise this enough, you are talking about big ideas but your posts make not one point. They are actual gibberish.

It means that words like ignorance, prejudice, gay, tolerance even gender have been hijacked to portray specific political meanings as part of a process of manipulating thought and language.

And we are back to the crazed conspiracy theories. Tell me who is manipulating us? The illuminati? A global Jewish-communist conspiracy? Saffron Walden Women's institute?

I am a consultant in financial services.

That's funny because I'd have put you down as a paranoid unemployable bitter loon who lives in a bedsit or with his mum and spent blamed his misfortune on all those who happened to look or sound a bit different to them. Just shows how wrong I am, when you're actually a hotshot financial consultant. Silly me.

I agree with GloGirl's analysis. This is real Man In The Pub stuff.
'I reckon, right....'

I reckon it's the return of Peter147 from towards the end of this thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2348672-Could-I-vote-UKIP-if-it-would-regenerate-my-town?pg=11&order=

It suits inadequates to believe that the 'sheeple' are being led by a mysterious underground group, and that only they and a few select others know the real truth.
It makes them feel better about themselves, I suppose.

I always thought claig was a he. No evidence for that but it was just the way (s)he wrote.

Before my time, I think.

YANBU

I would vote Tory to keep UKIP out.

YANBU. I don't think UKIP is seriously going to gain enough seats to be worth going into coalition with, and I would regard it as important to do my bit to minimise that chance. If I lived in South Thanet, I would in particular view it as my duty to vote whichever way ensures that Farage doesn't get into Parliament, on the basis that Farage losing is the best way to hasten the inevitable collapse of UKIP.

YANBU at all. I would.

YANBU. I'd vote for the Monster Raving Loonies if it kept UKIP out. Anyone who is female, has a wife, has a daughter or granddaughter, is non-British or has non-British family members or friends, is disabled or has disabled family or friends should be very concerned about the possibility of UKIP gaining seats.