To vote Tory to stop UKIP?

[pressone]

My constituency is a marginal. Current polls show 36% Tory, 33% UKIP, 18% Labour 10% LD, with a +/- 3% margin of error.

My personal preference would be Labour, but if I vote for them UKIP might take the seat.

Even though I hate the very idea of voting Tory, AIBU to vote for them anyway just to keep UKIP out?

(Really really detest, abhor and loathe UKIP)

Icimoi I`m in South Thanet and unfortunately the latest polls arnt helping, its a real 3 way split and I just dont know which way to vote, not least because the Tory is the ex UKIP Deputy

He is throwing everything at this seat, its so depressing.

"What is UKIP policy on gay marriage? How would they deal with 'Asian paedophile gangs'?"

a) nothing in policy, but various public statements saying 'no change' to current situation
b) they wouldn't as they don't run local policing/council in those areas, but from manifesto/public statements they would want to see prosecutions of offenders and are not planning changes to laws covering those offences. No difference, as far I can tell, from what other parties are saying.

Those of you considering who to vote for, do you also have local elections?

"You people" and "you mums" - pretty much a dead giveaway on how kippers view a large sector of society (I'm going to guess they don't draw much of a line between women/mothers too).

OneStepCloser , if it's a three way split and the Tory candidate is the ex UKIP deputy, I would vote Labour. Sounds like there's not much difference in the political viewpoints of the other 2 candidates who are probably just trying to settle old scores between each other.

Thats my thinking zen but the three way split are showing Tory lead then Ukip and then Labour, so, my worry, vote Labour (Im more green, but they are nowhere) and then see Farage get in by a few hundred votes (its that close). Im just not sure my hand will allow me to put my cross in a Tory box

Its very tense here.

I don't want the demise of UKIP: they help to split the right wing vote, thus reducing the chance of a Tory government.

To answer the OP's question, I would probably vote Labour. If you vote Tory to keep Ukip out, then that's one step closer to a Tory government. If the Ukip candidate gets in, what then? They are not going to have a whole lot of power and influence, are they?

I'd see what the polling results are like on the day (or whichever ones are nearest) and if it looks close run between Tory and UKIP with Labour miles back then I'd go Tory.

I do love being told that we've taken our eye off the political ball because of our children (paraphrasing)...it's cos we're little women isn't it? We couldn't possibly cope with thinking about nappies and politics after all.

Stop being so damned patronising and assuming you know more/are better educated. You come across as a delusional conspiracy theorist who can barely string a coherent post together.

Yep, hold your nose and vote Tory.

Spires 100

If you feel you have a valid point to make then please start your own thread, don't come here and hijack mine.

Challenged - really, well you have not responded to any of the point I raised simply because you are unable to so you throw terms.

What is the colloquial definition of a conspiracy theorist; someone who says something contrary to the mass media, your God.

Have you ever taken 5 mins to fact check something that is claimed to be incorrectly represented in the mass media? I wager not. The only thing you can do is react to it not fact check.

Pressone - you have not defined in your post why we need to stop UKIP. This comes across like someone acting in programmed fashion with no rhyme, reason or explanation.

Any serious argument towards an action would define the goal, the purpose, the intentions and the reasoning.

I do no see any reasoning.

Are you able to address this.

Grovel - "hold your nose and vote Tory"

Your post seems to be based on prejudice not reason. Are you capable of reasoned argument, stating your assumptions and reasoning.

The mass media is my god? You really are talking utter nonsense. You don't know me, you know nothing about me or anyone else on this thread. You have no idea what our education, profession, beliefs are.

As for whether I fact check the mass media - all the damn time. I too work in financial services in a role which requires me to be extremely good at analysing and interpreting facts and figures. I'm the sort of person who will go back to source data rather than believing what I'm told. Oh, I'm sorry, doesn't that fit with your perception?

Good grief, it's like a political version of one of those "Esteemed Madam, I have $1,000,000 to invest" letters

Our local UKIP candidate has blocked 17yo DD2 from his FaceBook page, for challenging some of his made up statistics. She was polite, and unaggressive, his reaction says a lot imo.

Oh Christ, he's back. As you've quoted Wikipedia as a source, please allow me the same privilege:

"A notable 21st-century conspiracy theory regards the Frankfurt School as the origin of a contemporary movement in the political left to subvert traditional western cultural norms, referred to as "Cultural Marxism" by theory proponents. It advocates for the idea that multiculturalism and political correctness are products of critical theory, which originated with the Frankfurt School. The theory is associated with American conservative thinkers such as William Lind, Pat Buchanan and Paul Weyrich, and has received institutional support from the Free Congress Foundation.[51][52] A copy of Political Correctness: A Short History of an Ideology by the FCF was included in a document titled 2083: A European Declaration of Independence by Norwegian terrorist Anders Behring Breivik, which was e-mailed to 1,003 addresses about 90 minutes before the bomb blast in Oslo.[53]"

Nice company you keep there, Spires

Absolutely I would. Whatever it takes.

The last thing deluded people want is someone who is thinking. In the Financial Times 7 C's of Consulting Book, it says that most people operate in a permanent semi-delusional state. I will try to attach a screen copy of the paragraph.

Oh, the irony. How long before you use the word 'sheeple'? You know you want to.

Uncertain Smile: That is so original stating that a killer shared the same view. I suppose when you disprove Islam, one of the key messages you relay is terrorism. (Seeing as there is one cultural Marxism terrorist and multiple Islam terrorists.)

But by not doing so you display the same double standards that define cultural Marxism/ political correctness.

Your ethos is build on double standards. (The ANC is good, UKIP is bad etc. when they are the same principle).

I oppose UKIP because I am very distrustful of right wing populism. Proposing simple solutions to complex problems and demonising 'the other' leads to Very Bad Things. UKIP MEP's take their salary in Europe, but do nothing. They are robbing the taxpayer.

Spires, you are making many simplistic assumptions. I oppose Islamism as a regressive, medieval theocratic nightmare. I oppose it from a traditional leftie standpoint.
Political correctness is just a polite way of speaking about people, would you use terms like cripple, nigger, paki, or other terms that 'PC' have hopefully consigned to history?

Vote Conservative and keep SNP out; this is far more serious.
If Miliband gets in everything will be controlled by Sturgeon, representing probably 3 million people.