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Katie Hopkins reported to police AGAIN after calling boat migrants cockroaches!

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FourFiveSecondsFromSmiling · 21/04/2015 18:56

It just keeps getting worse and worse what comes out of her mouth.

I don't disagree with what she is saying just think she uses horrible language.

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catgirl1976 · 21/04/2015 20:49

You know, I don't think the majority of migrants who set off on a life threatening journey, having paid all of their life savings are thinking much about benefits.

I think they are thinking more about the "push" factors (like being beheaded, starving, being tortured, their children being killed etc) than the "pull" factors like oooh....not being allowed to work, living on as little as £5 per a day, going through a stringent process, being hated by their new community and all the other toptastic things like that.

Aside from the fact they not getting horribly killed is probably the number one factor in getting on that boat, these people pay a lot of money to make that journey. Which means, that in their home country they were somebody, had a good job, a career. Which maybe they liked. Maybe they hate the idea of never being a doctor, insurance broker, small business owner again. Maybe living on handouts is an awful thought to them (but it's the living bit again that's motivating.)

Also - I bet in places like Syria there aren't loads of programmes on TV about how awesome the benefits are in Europe and which country should you choose. They probably have very little awareness of the benefits systems of other countries. Have a think about it. How would they be likely to have all this knowledge about benefits? Maybe they pause in between the fleeing and not getting killed for a good chat about it, or maybe if you got the Somalian version of the TV Times it's back to back with shows about European benefits and how to claim them. But I doubt it somehow.

Anyway. Thank God some of them make it here and end up safe. Thank God some of them are able to rebuild their lives and contribute to our society. It's a shame it's not more.

ghostyslovesheep · 21/04/2015 20:50

your whole argument starts from a basis that it's out of control - it isn't

facts show we take less refugees than other EU countries

Facts support other welfare systems being generous

Facts show that their are 2 million British 'Immigrants' in the EU - what does UKIP propose to do with them when they come home having lost the right to live and work in Europe? You'll have a welfare crisis then!

SlaggyIsland · 21/04/2015 20:52

I can say I know for a fact that many people in poorer countries don't know the ins and outs of the UK benefits system.
When I go to visit family in Southern Africa, many people ask me how they can move to the UK or Europe. They are not in desperate fear of their lives, just ground down by the economic misery of their existence, so they are unlikely to attempt to migrate illegally and won't be able to seek asylum.
They wouldn't have a clue that there is a benefits safety net here, or a national health service.
They are simply aware that the EU is prosperous and safe. They think they would be able to built a better life for their families, though working.

daffsandtulips · 21/04/2015 20:53

Who are you Catgirl to think that these people see nothing other than what's in their country I actually think they are not naive nor stupid, you however may be a bit green.

Pyjamaschocolateandwine · 21/04/2015 20:53

When you read stuff Katie Hopkins says you then realise how the nazis came to power and how equating women and children to cockroaches eventually led to shaving them, starving them dehumanising them and then killing them.

You make humans sub human both the killers and the killed.

Calloh · 21/04/2015 20:55

Genuinely this really stresses me out. I think about it at night.

What do we do? I can't bear the idea that there are people who have fled Isis and other death-eating bastards sharing two bathrooms between 1,000 in Italy or hanging out in Calais, in the drizzle (not today but generally).

How can we help them? It was sheer bloody luck I was born here and luck does not absolve me from the responsibility to help others who weren't. But I do see that taking everyone from everywhere may not help either.

My friends brother mentored a boy who escaped the Taliban, his father was executed by them, his mother vanished. His older brother got leave to stay in the uK and can support himself and his brother, the boy came here as a child and has received no eduction or training. He is now an adult and we're sending him back to Kabul. It makes me want to scream.

ghostyslovesheep · 21/04/2015 20:55

I don't normally like Russ but this is well worth viewing - might even teach some facts

catgirl1976 · 21/04/2015 20:57

Who are you Catgirl to think that these people see nothing other than what's in their country

Have you got the slightest idea of the horror these people are fleeing from?

Do you honestly think people would make that journey just to claim some fucking benefits?

I'll tell you what. You spend a month in Syria and then do that journey, and if you make it, I will personally give you whatever the amount in benefits they would get is for your entire life and gold plated BUPA cover for you and you family.

Biscuit
SlaggyIsland · 21/04/2015 20:57

Pajamas you are so right. Normalising that sort of rhetoric is really dangerous. Look at South Africa, the Zulu king sounds off and immigrants are slaughtered in the streets.

kua · 21/04/2015 20:58

Catgirl- "some" end up here! Some! What the Fuck ! Do you not have compassion for those who paid a price and did not make it!! Do you not see the problem?

LooksLikeImStuckHere · 21/04/2015 20:58

I was under the belief that many of these individuals had the right to claim asylum under the Geneva Convention.

Just a thought OP, do you not just see it as bloody good luck on your part that you were born to a family who lived in a 'safe' country?

I'm genuinely interested to know what you would do if you lived in a warzone? If you and your family were being threatened with inhumane treatment? If your children were suffering? If you were running from genocide?

Would you try and protect your family? Would you run?

Honestly not being sarcastic, I'm interested to know.

catgirl1976 · 21/04/2015 20:59

Erm..........did you actually read my post kua? Confused

HeinousPieTrap · 21/04/2015 21:00

I live in Germany (and not a rich part of it). There are posters up saying things like "being a refugee isn't a job: can your firm offer a refugee a job?" "offer a room to a refugee"... OK posters don't change the world, but the line of conversation seems to be very different here from that in the UK (where I'm from).

But then it's not so far back in history that there were millions of German refugees moving in from Eastern Europe: maybe that makes a difference.

daffsandtulips · 21/04/2015 21:01

Im away now as you'll all just end up "eating each other" as you always do Grin

HeinousPieTrap · 21/04/2015 21:01

oh and I get waaaay more child benefit here than I would in the UK. But honestly, I'm not just here to scrounge benefits!

DarthVadersTailor · 21/04/2015 21:03

Many, if not all, of the migrants have a fantasy image of Britain and other european countries and what life will be like there. And they are willing to risk it all to come here, through travelling by absurdly dangerous means at the hands of traffickers who exploit them for whatever they have. Why? Because they are being murdered, oppressed and stripped of human dignity in their homelands. Wouldn't you contemplate doing exactly the same if you believed there was a better life elsewhere at the end of a (horrific) journey?

Why can't we send this idiotic sub-human mouthpiece on a boat out of here? Preferably to the middle of the ocean. On a rickety boat. Full of bloody chum. With only her own piss to drink. And a predator drone circling on standby in case she manages to somehow survive her ordeal ordeal.....

Alisvolatpropiis · 21/04/2015 21:05

Because you seem to struggle with geography and the entire concept of the UK, perhaps daffs.

daffsandtulips · 21/04/2015 21:06

Grin oh so pretentious are ye Alisvo.......

IFinishedTheBiscuits · 21/04/2015 21:06

Daffs:

"In saying that, as I have stated, in their shoes my goal would be England."

"I live in England."

Do you think maybe there's a link between those two statements?...

LagerthaEarlIngstad · 21/04/2015 21:08

Is pretentious the word for today on your word a day calendar?

daffsandtulips · 21/04/2015 21:09

I said England so what? Grin what on earth are you splitting hairs for. I also said that everyone wants to eat each other on some threads.

daffsandtulips · 21/04/2015 21:10

Its so apt on here. I was looking for one to sum things up and I found it so I like to use it Grin

Pagwatch · 21/04/2015 21:12

Can I ask - why do you keep posting grins on a thread about migrants dying when you haven't posted anything jocular?

It's a bit weird. Is there a reason?

IFinishedTheBiscuits · 21/04/2015 21:13

And seeing how Tony Abbott treats his 'own' people (although not sure he sees the Aboriginal people that way), I'm not surprised he's completely lacking in compassion for anyone else. No way I'd want someone like that in charge in the UK, I think we should be proud of the compassion and tolerance the UK is known for.

Calloh · 21/04/2015 21:13

Ghosty that's a pretty god damn good video from Russ.

I think it's how powerless I feel that's the worst. During winter I wanted to get in my deeply unsexy but extremely large people carrier and take people over coats and sleeping bags and fuel. Literally it's freaking terrible and yet people seem to find it a threat to them and their way of life instead of a humanitarian disaster.

I actually feel so much better having read Heinous's post because it suggests actual concrete things that can be done to help short-term.

Does it matter where they are heading or why? The fact is that they need to leave their homes. I would have thought that the languages they can speak would be a fairly large determinant on which country they go for once they are safe and can collect their breath.