To wonder why there has STILL been no donation?

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This has probably been done, I know there was a long running thread about this very subject but I can't find it?
So, several months on I see Dax's parents have still not made the promised donation to Ronald McDonald hospice. On March 2nd they updated the Facebook page to say they works be making the donation 'very soon', but still nothing.
Am I the only one thinking they have no intention of donating any money out of the tens of thousands donated to them? That in fact they intend to keep it all and deny the very charity that provided them with so much support in the early weeks of their Childs life?
In fact, I don't think im the only one judging by the comments on the Facebook page.
I think they're hoping it will blow over and if they keep quiet long enough people will forget.

It must be quite difficult to work out how much money has to be donated to Ronald McDonald House.

Some people gave money thinking it was for medical bills - they were lied to.
Some people gave money thinking it was for the parents/baby - well, you could say anyone can give money to whoever they please.
Then there is the percentage of people who gave money thinking it was for medical bills but now don't actually care who has their money - same as above.

I'm in no way defending these people, what they did was incredibly wrong and it's their own fault their in this mess. Personally I think it should all go to Ronald McDonald House but then someone will pipe up and say "but I didn't want it to go to them I wanted the baby to have the money so he can go back to America to see where he was born or some other ridiculous reason "

shewept I think the page is mainly TD's? So it could be that TD is saying there are no tax implications, however, they will be registering the money because there are tax implications.

Soup according to further posts in the comments of the same picture - the registration for charity status was so they could open "Dax's Star Foundation" and collect/distribute funds to babies in similar circs maybe to qualify for 'help' you'd have to already have been completely funded by your insurance co .

The picture TD posted of a PM, along with his comments were the reason the crowd turned on people asking for a refund.

TD is hot on deleting posts again.

I'm new to this whole thing and haven't looked into it enough to form a solid opinion, but the one thing that glaringly sticks out to me is that posts written by the guy who is in charge of the whole shenanigans and posts that claim to be written by the couple have the same grammar mistakes...that in itself feels weird, like they're all the same person?

Example, in the latest post they use the word "wrote" instead of "written." There is a post back in January I think from the guy running the page who does exactly the same thing. Unless that's a regional thing?

So TD said there would be tax implications and now saying there definitely isn't. I can't see that being right. They have received several thousands of pounds and are not charity, surely there has to be tax implications.

saga I would agree, except they are deleting comments they don't like and blocking people who ask for a refund. So you can only see people saying they shouldn't donate the money. Personally I think helping a charity that helped you is more important than paying for a future trip to new York.

I don't think tax implications would change for the money that was given before they set themselves up as a registered charity.

I doubt that they are now about to devote any time to raising money for other prem babies - even if they aren't con artists they are, from the evidence, rubbish with money, disorganised, have very mixed results with publicity and don't follow through on commitments in a timely manner.

I think it depends if the money was gifted, and I think in this case you could argue that it was. I don't know if there's a legal line between fundraising and gifting though (I'm assuming that it would remain untaxed because the charity it would end up going to pays tax? I am tired and probably spouting crap though).

But - the money they were given was definitely given following incorrect information, which is fraud. So tax or no tax it's still pretty high up on the dodgy-scale.

Yy Saga I have wondered that too. I've also (cynically, probably) wondered if their 'confirmation' of a donation to RMHC would be a post from TD signed off with X from RHMC NY...

If you give to a registered charity, it is gift aid and the charity can claim the basic rate of income tax on your donation if you are a tax payer.

However, gift aid doesn't apply to donations before the recipient was a registered charity.

I am under the assumption (and maybe wrong) that you could only receive a certain amount as a gift before it needs to be declared. As they are both self employed, would it need to be included in tax returns?

They wouldn't get charitable status, the remit is too narrow ie they are only helping themselves. Same reason the McCanns 'fund' was never a charity.

shewept I was only suggesting that maybe the posts are all coming from the same person; I think you said yourself you were blocked by the mum even though you had only made contact with the friend? Strange is all.

I'm sadly not surprised to hear no donation has happened.

He won't be able to delete this one as it is on the RMH page.

I am not a charities expert, but I don't think they have done anything legally wrong. They are not a charity so do not have to account to anyone over how the funds are used. There is no meaningful regulation of sites like "go fund me" and it seems to be acceptable to raise money for any non cause using those means. There is a post upthread by a poster called aggressivebunting which explained it better.

There is a separate question over whether people have given money based on TD's bullshit about panties and fucking boobysuckers. And yet another question over whether the money is taxable - I see no reason why it wouldn't be.

I remember similar questions being raised about the McCanns fund at the time, because people believed they were donating to help other missing kids (rather than pay the mortgage on the McCann's house!) As far as I can recall, no action was taken. Sadly I think the same will apply here.

I don't think either TD or the couple themselves seem very bright, so I doubt they had the nouse to pull this off as a scam from the start. I think it got out of hand when their lies started reaching a wider audience. However, I think they have behaved in a less than scrupulous way - the best way to end the speculation would be to donate some money. They haven't - probably because they have already pissed it up the wall. I feel sorry for that poor kid.

Sorry saga I got my posters mixed up. I was actually replying to hoppity. I wasn't blocked I am not fb, think it was spud, possible. Apologies again.

I think the point is not that they may have done anything legally wrong as such, but their constant story changes and backtracking is just compounding how dodgy this whole thing is.

That's ok, she...I obviously have mixed my posters up, too!

trufflesnout - totally agree, it's very fishy. Most honest people go out of their way to be transparent when collecting money from others. It stinks.

fantastic Housebot

Yes that was me that was blocked by the mum, after speaking to 'trickydicky'. I'm also very suspicious and have always had a gut feeling that 'trickydicky' is the mum/dad.

It might not be legally wrong but its definately morally wrong. They never needed the money in the first place. They have plenty of assets that they could sell to fund the expenses if it came to it. Unless everything is on credit and all the bikes and car are just to show off.