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To not be the least bit suprised by this ( Jihadi schoolgirls )

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ginghamcricketbox · 27/03/2015 18:05

Talk about taking the piss.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3013703/Father-jihadi-bride-schoolgirl-attended-2012-Islamist-rally-attended-Lee-Rigby-s-killer-led-preacher-Anjem-Choudary.html

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TheFairyCaravan · 27/03/2015 22:01

I think they knew but apologised anyway because they were fearing repercussions if they didn't.

TheFairyCaravan · 27/03/2015 22:02

I think they were thinking along the lines of damage limitation. I could be entirely wrong of course,

PuttingouthefirewithGasoline · 27/03/2015 22:02

Repercussions of what though?

Who should be doing the apologising here? The whole thing was a total farce. I cannot see what good has come out of it, and shed load of precious money wasted on this utter tripe.

TheFairyCaravan · 27/03/2015 22:04

The repercussions could have been terrible if he hadn't of got what he wanted considering the groups and people he is involved with.

IfMaybeBut · 27/03/2015 22:05

I suspect the police knew but are so fed up of defending themselves that they apologised as the least time consuming option.

Corygal · 27/03/2015 22:06

As far as the father is concerned, part of any anti-British agenda would be to try and discredit or criticise the police, wouldn't it.

At first I thought the family were lashing out at all and sundry (inc the police) in shock and confusion after the girls 'disappeared'. Or that the whole family were being mistranslated or mispresented - AFAIR, only one female cousin spoke English.

But maybe the loving Dad made the most of the police's actions, not that they were actually at fault, to have a pop. Nasty little man.

MistressMia · 27/03/2015 22:08

Five more girls from the same school whose parents are implicated in their radicalisation

Family lawyer is an extremist linked to Cage .....wouldn't have been difficult to find this out so why the rush to pander by the police.

Joyfulldeathsquad · 27/03/2015 22:10

I think it was done to give a greater effect.

If we found out at the time people would have just expected it.

We find out after the police apologise (which I thought was strange anyway) in which we see the father clutching a teddy with an obligatory western football kit on - expressing shock and bewilderment. Then we find out that he has links with fundamentalists.

I don't know it just smacks of 'see look how good we are and look at how untrustworthy they are -were trying our best blah blah"

Look at how long the police take to apologise over major fuck ups. This was done very speedily.

Hillingdon · 27/03/2015 22:10

TheFAiry -are you seriously saying that they were so nervous of what he might do and call upon that we thought the UK better say sorry?? I worked with a police force many years ago in the course of my role.

It was one of my best jobs ever but they always said when investigating crimes particularly the most serious that they always looked closest to home

Always....

PuttingouthefirewithGasoline · 27/03/2015 22:14

Then we find out that he has links with fundamentalists

We see his snarling hate ridden face at the forefront of a hate rally actively taking part in it.

Yes perhaps it was done this way, for effect.

I can't see the sense in it.

If Fairy is right we all better leave uk now, pandering to this man, what a joke.

hillingdon its something the police seems to have forgotten about particularly in the Tia Sharpe case. Taken in by the poor, picked upon Hazel, and his plea to leave him alone. Angry same bloody thing.

Hillingdon · 27/03/2015 22:16

That school needs to be stormed into. No messing around, no saying its a cultural sensitive issue.

FIVE more girls, what on earth is going on. What if one of those girls (whoever they think their God is) decided to be a suicide bomber within the school or go on to a packed tube with their warped idea of right and wrong

Religion has a lot to answer for.

TheFairyCaravan · 27/03/2015 22:17

I think that the police knew he was linked to these people. He was harping on and on and on about the police being at fault and they thought it was better to apologise so it reduced the chance of him or his extremist mates doing something.

We already know what they are capable of, we saw what they did to Lee Rigby. We don't know what the police had revealed when they were doing their investigations.

debbriana · 27/03/2015 22:18

I told my partner that this would be the case and I have been proven right.

Hillingdon · 27/03/2015 22:18

Surely the backgrounds of the families would have been looked into? It was so high profile that resources and money would not have been an issue.

TheFairyCaravan · 27/03/2015 22:21

Exactly, the police would have known the backgrounds, they would have known he was linked to these people before they apologised. So why did they apologise? What was the reason?

Hillingdon · 27/03/2015 22:23

We must then stand up to these scum. Who look to do us harm. Who spout hate messages in the name of free speech.

If that means no marches like this, no burkas, no faith schools until we stamp out this disease. Make it unattractive to settle in the UK. I don't hear the Muslim leaders coming out to condemn but then one never really hears from them.

Joyfulldeathsquad · 27/03/2015 22:27

I don't think it was to do with repercussions. I genuinely believe it down media damage limitations and to sway public thinking.

The family stuck their head above the parapet and demanded an apology off the police taking no responsibility for their own children. They got their apology and a bit more.

I think before they could have gotten away with saying they were radicalised away from the home. They have proven on tv they are liars.

hiddenhome · 27/03/2015 22:29

Look up the practise of al-Taqiyya in Islam. It may explain a few things.

Hillingdon · 27/03/2015 22:29

I am lying in bed, my two children are warm and safe, yet I was on the tube 3 days this week, my DS often goes into London. These sorts of things only seem to happen to others yet - sometimes I think -maybe it's my turn.

A terrorist bomb, a plot to become a suicide bomber, terrorist cells broken up It's all I feel just bubbling under the surface.

Hillingdon · 27/03/2015 22:33

That father will never be able to walk the streets again without looking over his shoulder - it's as it should be. You reap what you sew.

Unless of course he claims he is being picked on and the police give him a new identity.

TheFairyCaravan · 27/03/2015 22:34

I'm lying in bed, too. I have DS2(18) beside me, we're watching GoogleBox.
DS1(20) is in his room, he came home today after finishing his Phase2 army training so is now a fully trained soldier. I fear for his safety on the streets. He looks like a soldier when he is with his army mates becuase they all look the same. DH is in the RAF. He won't travel to work in his uniform, it's not worth the risk.

I don't think that an attack will be in London, I think it will elsewhere. I hate that I am worried because it is what they want. We need to clamp down on these people for once and for all.

Hillingdon · 27/03/2015 22:42

I think I am sorry to say that we need to have a big focus on Muslim faith schools, not turn a blind eye to communities using sharia law. No burkas, no separation of women and girls. This father didn't speak good English I believe - why?

He came to this country, he was welcomed with open arms and he repaid like this. Does he work, do any of his family contribute anything. They have their hands outstretched for more yet make no effort to embrace their new homeland.

It's as though they hate us. Well if it's so good in other countries then off you pop.

ShouldIworryornothelp · 27/03/2015 22:43

hillingdon I've been resisting the urge to tell you to shut up but I've run out of patience now

Your fear of Muslim terrorists is irrational. Look at other acts of violence and terrorism going on in the world. The German wings plane for one. Not a Muslim.

PoisonPension · 27/03/2015 22:47

You can't tell from looking at them, who is a psychopath or one of their radicalised sheep from anyone else.

hiddenhome · 27/03/2015 22:48

ShouldI that is very low to bring that plane disaster up Hmm