...To think the mum who attacked bullies is RIGHT?

[candidkate]

Just read this story

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/i-know-what-wrong-im-8870532

This poor mum has witnessed her DD be bullied for years. 15 school kids had the balls to even show up at her home screaming abuse, threatening to kill her poor DD! She comes home furious and attacks one of them, punching the other who tried to break it up.

I don't condone violence full stop. But these were 14 year old hardly little kids who do not know better. I'm sorry but I'm putting my hands on you before you ever harm my child!

It was a daunting situation - she had even called the police and what did they do? Nothing. Kids are killing themselves while schools and police twiddle their thumbs. Enough it enough!

..pointless Saucy..it doesn't suit their current agenda.

However, if their 13 year old DC was the subject of a local sex offender...suddenly the goalposts would change

Understandable? Yes. Right? No.

"Most" schools DO deal with it effectively, but that doesn't suit your argument, does it? Better just to give them a good old backhander, eh OP?

Oh I dunno, perhaps those methods were tried and didn't work, do you think folk like being backed into a corner so much that what this woman did seems almost acceptable. And note I said almost, because it isn't. In any other situation I'd be ripping her a new one

Anyway I'm not going to argue it further.

I don't understand why it went on for so long. The first time my child was bullied would be the end of it. You want to punch/hit/bully my dd/ds you will come off worse - it's not hard to understand. THe he only thing bullies understand is being hit back - once they know you won't stand by they a will go away.

And as I've said MOST might deal with it but if you get the one that doesn't then you're stuffed aren't you. It's irrelevant.

And it's quite evident that a lot aren't dealing with it, what with the amount of teen suicides that are relating to bullying.

..gotta laugh at that line in the OP "I don't condone violence full stop" and then goes on repeatedly to condone violence, gleefully.

finnbarrcar Are you.....alright? I hope you are. I've said to Saucy that i agree violence isn't good and that she's made some interesting good points. Are you okay Finnbarr?
Are you reading anything anyone is saying?
Maybe you should leave the thread and resume your life...
It's only MN you do know you can just click the x on the tab currently open.
Just leave the page please stop trolling x

Aw, the old PA "are you alright....get a life" tactic. Very poor. Must try harder.

Just out of interest, how many people have you punched/slapped in RL OP? Go on, tell us.

..oh, and don't tell me to "leave the page"...smacks of, er...bullying OP.

...and the definition of "trolling" isn't "disagreeing with candidkate

and head tilt to you too, Grey...

I understand saucy but sexual activity and bullying are two different things. If a 13 year old tried to rape a 41 year old teacher (and this has happened) and the teacher clobbered the kid over the head with something so be it.
Please don't compare a punch (in the context of self defense) and rape as in the same line of reason/justice. I think even you know its not the same. This isn't about violence in general - which pedophilia is. This is about defending your child.
I hate to be crude but I think we's all prefer to be punched in the face than sexually abused. Strange comparison.Furthermore no one deserves to be sexually abused - I'm sure even you would say some people deserve physical retaliation. Or no? No violence ever ever ever? Even if someone tried to grab your baby out of its pram (I've seen this) you wouldnt shove them aside? That's an act of violence.

Op - you are not disgusting, nor a troll or a vigilante. Just a human. Ignore Finbarr and her Holier-than-Thou shite.

Some of these "children" know that they are untouchable - and behave accordingly. My DH has been robbed by a gang of "children" at 3am (he's a milkman). There were about 10 of them, they were about 13-16 years old. He knew, and they knew (and taunted him) that he could not physically touch them to protect his goods or self. They nicked loads of stuff and smashed his mobile that he'd got out to ring the Police. He's self employed so cost us directly.

He was 17 years in the Army before, did several tours of duty in NI in the 80's when things were tough. When he got home after being robbed and tormented by these "children" he wept. He had never felt so vulnerable.

So shag off some of you. Pray that you never find yourself or yours at the mercy of these bastards. "Children" - my arse.

Oh BMW I'm so bloody sorry that happened to your DH. That's disgusting. :(

Finbarr Not a tactic it's genuine concern you're being very confrontational nasty and below the belt for no reason. For the millionth time many people have disagreed with me but you are the only one to name call and troll.
Please stop we are happy to listen to you just play nice stop saying nasty things x

finnbarr that post came out wrong, it was supposed to be accompanied by a funny gif but for some reason the gif didn't show up...

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BMW6 Thank you for sharing that - I think many people who disagree know deep down that evil exists in every age race religion etc. To infer that a 13 year old is should essentially untouchable is naive and out of touch- whether you mean to be or not. I understand the lines can get blurred and agree with Saucy on that instance - but a death threat is about as serious as it gets. It's a criminal offense within itself forget the bullying.

These people said they were going to kill them this isn't tag your it bullying and if you cant throw a punch when you feel your life is at risk when can you? Thats an honest question to everyone who disagrees

i.imgur.com/Kcl7wAf.gifv

At the risk of going round in circles..... it can't be counted as self-defence (or defence of a third party)

Her child was inside the house, on the other side of a locked door. She was not at that moment in time in any danger. For self-defence to count you do actually have to be in a situation where your safety is at risk.

If she'd been outside and on the receiving end of a beating then both the judgement and public opinion would have been very different. But she wasn't.

Initiating violence or any other crime is not self-defence (and nor should it be) under UK law.

Thanks for the empathy. Every night he goes out I'm afraid it will happen again. TBH the rage I feel I would love to beat the shit out of every one of the fuckers. No, not really - alone they are just kids - but in a pack...........

BMW it's bloody awful and stays with you for life. People can be so cruel, no matter what age. Especially when you have pack mentality.

My brother has never been the same since he was jumped. He was 16, the lads involved 14. 4 of them jumped him. When he was on the floor they were booting him in the head and stamping on his hands :( I don't know why the stamping on his hands part got to me so much but it makes me cry thinking about it even now. He lost so much confidence because of it, ended up on antidepressnts. I think sometimes the mental effects are worse than the physical.